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Does anyone know if its possible to set a parameter inside of section and callout heads so that it will read either similar or opposite? I know you most heads are preset so that when used as a reference instead of live view the note Sim. shows up. Is there anyway to create a section head that would read "opp" instead of sim without changing all of the like heads. Duplicating section heads do not seem to work right, when we try to change the head to the duplicated head it automatically changes back to the standard head. Has anyone else ever had an issue with this?
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You would need to duplicate the section style (not the head) and there you can change the text label which will show to TYP or SIM or OPP HAND, however this will only show up when the new style is applied to a section (or detail cut) which is referencing another view.
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How do you duplicate the "section style"? Do you mean the section system family? I know it looks like you should be able to duplicate the system family and then change the parameter, but when you try to change different sections to a different section system family it automatically changes back to the standard system family. Have you experianced this?
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I used the phrase section "style" to refer to a new section type and since family, type or element are used so frequently throughout the program that it gets confusing to some users when I explain it to them [see below]. Select a section marker in a drawing and go to the properties window, duplicate a type and modify the text for the "Reference Label" to whatever you need. This text will only show up however when the section which you are creating is referencing another view. If you want the text to show up without referencing another view, create a new section head [File>New> Section Head] and add in whatever text and parameters you would like. Then load the new head into your project [or template] and create a new section tag [Settings> View Tags> Section Tags]. Duplicate a head to create a new type [i.e. TYP Section Tag] and change the the head style to the head you just loaded into your project. Then go the section family properties [select a section symbol> Properties] and duplicate to create a new section type [i.e. Wall Section - TYP Tag] and change the head to the section tag type you just created [ i.e. TYP Section Tag]. This will create a new section type or "style" which will always use this new head with the text added in. Switch the section style to the one you want [i.e. Wall Section - TYP Tag] and it will only affect the section which you apply this style to. Hope that helps and clears up any confusion I might have created.
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I'm following what your saying, and obviously in theory it should work. This is what we've always tried to do. You can duplicate the section type, and create a new section type, it allows you to change the Reference Lable. But the problem we have is when we try to change the section marker to the new section marker, it automatically switches back the default section marker. Its like there is no way to change it to the new section marker. Have you ever experianced this or does it actually work for you?
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After following either of the techniques that I had laid out, I have had success both in the past and in current projects. If you can post a small file with your section heads a few sections cut I can take a look at it and see if there is anything which is causing it not to work. Also, is this happening in just one file or in all of your files?
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There was one other thing which I just noticed, when referencing another view [the parent view] the new marker will always remain the same as parent view's marker. This could explain why the tag does not change when you apply the new callout head family.
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I think I understand what you are saying. But what if the same elevation has both a similar and an opposite hand instance?
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