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Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 6:59:44 AM | Slow project

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I'm currently working on a large retail residential project, the revitcentral  file size is 85mb. there are alot of groups within the project, and it has become unbearable slow to work on. Does any one have any idea how to "speed things up". turning off and on work sets seems to help slightly, but obviously we need to see everything in context all of the time. By the way its not the machine!(HP xw9300 workstation, 2GB ram, Quatro FX 1400)
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Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:54:09 AM | Slow project

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May want to try purging unused families, splitting the project up into worksets (time consuming but can speed up workflow).  If you search the forums for project file speed I'm sure you'll get many hits on how to maximize performace as I know it's been discussed many times.  You may also want to look over at AUGI.com 's forums as I know it has been extensively discussed over there.

 

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Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:53:37 AM | Slow project

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here is previous info posted on slow performance by Tom Dorner

 

Question by Revit User

Problems with Revit Being Slow 1

Not being there to look at your file it is hard to diagnose. As I have stated in previous posts, it is not the size of the project, it is how you modeled it that matters the most. Are you using groups? If so how? Do all the hosts required for grouped objects exist in the group? What is in 3D that doesn't need to be? Do you have toilets for example in 3D? Why? Is any of the site work included in the main model? Site need to be a seperate file with the building linked in. How are your worksets sturctured? Do you understand the replicated database topology that Revit employs?The list goes on and on.I can tell you that I have a 300,000 SF project underway that is an educational building and simply have no problems with it. The file size is about 40 meg and we are in the DD phase so I have most elements in the model. It will grow with some detailing, but not by much.Your re-seller should be able to help you out. If not, then find a different one. Be vocal with them and tell them that just selling a Revit license is only the first step of their job. They need to be sure you are fully trained and aware of the techniques that need to be employed on your project types.Revit is a great piece of software, but as it has been said by others "complex databases don't happen by accident".

Groups in Revit are a major area of failure. It is Revit's fault that they are not as reliable as they should be. It has been a wishlist item for many years now to get them fixed. They may indeed prove to be the root cause of all of your troubles. If you are editing the group and there are items in the group that belong to many different worksets I can see how Revit would choke and crash.

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It is not the size of the project that matters, it is how it is modeled that makes the difference. I have seen very small projects that are over-contrained with tons of in-place families or poorly contructed families make Revit look like a useless slow pig of a program. And then I have seen models we have of a 300,000 SF three story involved building that simply are not a problem.The biggest things to look at are groups. These can be a Revit problem, so make sure you do not see a lot of re-definition taking place. Another spot can be families. In-place families should simply be avoided. Other families should be created to not be "universal". I see people trying to make a door family that can be every type of door there is and the family size ballons to 2 meg when there should be more specific families to cover the doors that are each 50-100K.Site work should be done in a seperate file and the main Revit model linked into it.Any AutoCAD files should be "linked" in not "imported". And then only if they are needed. I rarely keep ACAD stuff hanging around. If I need a detail or something simply make a Revit one.Large project will require worksets.Modeling everything in 3D is not required and not a good idea. Do you have your standing seam roof modeled? I would never model the standing seams, simply use a surface pattern and a JPEG image if you need to render. What other things are in 3D that don't need to be? Are all of your toilets for example in 3D? I use 2D for toilets unless you plan to render the bathrooms. Better yet I use 2.5D which still wrok in both plan and elevation yet don't have hte 3D overhead.What about planting? If you are rendering using the Accustudio plants and not RPC's then you are going to have trouble.A 61,000 SF project is not very big for Revit to handle. I would take a look at how you are putting it together rather than to hardware problems.If you have not attended Autodesk University, it is where this type of information is presented. If you are a subscription customer, last years AU2005 sessions are out there for you to view that talk about some of this.

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Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 6:13:33 PM | Slow project

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I found this really weird glitch a little while ago. It was just in one file, I could not recreate it in another. I had an extruded roof on a lower level that joined with a roof on an upper level. As soon as I joined geometry it was an immediate horrendous slowdown. Unjoin, just fine. It was incredible how much it bogged it down. Minutes to rotate around the model.

 

Honestly I think you have to pay attention to everything you do as you do it. I think Revit has some weird hidden glitches that pop up every now and then for no explicable reason. I've had to start projects over because of errors not being able to be fixed. 


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