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I'd like to know how others deal with supplemental drawings in Revit. We're struggling with this in our office. As you know, these are a convenient way of issuing additional information without re-issuing a whole sheet. To do this, a new view (the view callout, section or detail, has to be hidden in all affected areas where it is not desired to be seen) has to be created and placed on either a letter or legal size sheet. These sheets become a part of the construction documents so they therefore need to remain static. So far the best solution we've arrived at is to create this view on these sheets and then create a PDF of these sheets for issuing and our files. Since the view in the Revit file is a part of the model it's dynamic so we have to be sure to not use this down the road when issuing because it could have changed, but to use the PDF instead. Clear as mud? Any comments, tips or help regarding this would be GREATLY appreciated.
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What about doing them as design options?
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Revisions/Addendums/Supplementals in Revit are problematic. I have done new views and callouts and they work but come with problems. I have recently settled on doing the revisions in the main view then do an image capture, save it as a JPEG and then insert JPEG into a new drafting view. Then I place the drafting view onto a new revision/addendum sheet. This method is still not perfect, but at least you have all the sheets still in Revit. (Try SnagIt for screen captures www.techsmith.com)
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DO's are a good idea other than if the original sheet has to be re-released at a later time, as in an addendum or something. If that happens, the sheet would have to be updated with the new view (containing the DO) rather than leaving the original view on the sheet. This is further complicated by the fact that the tags would change on the plans because of the deleting and adding of the views. Same problem if you duplicate the view with detailing (insted of using DO's). This also is a problem if you have a view with a bunch of detail or section marks on it because those views are also duplicated when you duplicate the main view. The only success we have had is by making the necessary changes, printing the sheet and LITERALLY cutting and pasting the desired view onto the smaller format sheet. We make a PDF of this for records, but the original sheet is clouded and numbered for possible issuing later as an addendum.
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Good idea TomDorner. I guess you still have to switch out the views on the sheet if the main sheet is released after the SuppDwg is issued, but have you had any troubles with that on your jobs?
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Chymos, We issue only 8.5"x11" addendums so I simply make a new series of 8.5"x11" sheets to hold the addendums and those sheets have a different numbering sequence. If per chance I have to re-release the entire 30"x42" sheet then it is also good to go since all the revisions bubbles and tags where done in the view placed on that sheet anyway. If you only re-release the entire sheet[s] for revisions, then you can simply keep doing the revisions in the views placed on those sheets. If the project is a non-central file project, before I make the revisions I copy the project file to an archive location and re-name it as archived and a date in the title. If the project is a central file, then I make sure to open the central file "detached" from central and save to an archive location. I always like to have a copy of the Revit file at each stage of the project as yu never know when it will come in handy.
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This was a 4 year old conversation, but seems that Autodesk still hasn't resolved the problem. I struggled with addendum the past 2 days and here is the best solution I have come up with - all advice and additions welcome. 1. After the release of each drawing set, open a local copy detached from central. Save it as  "project #" "type set" "date" i.e 2716.01 Bid Set 2008.06.04.rvt This way we have a static copy to go back to. We also have a PDF set saved with the model. 2. Correct the original view that requires addendum, supplemental, or revision. 3. Make a duplicate copy with detailing of the revised view and place it on an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet 4. Go to the view which calls out the view you have corrected. There will now be 2 callouts on top of each other. Select the one thAT references the copy on the 8 1/2 x 11 and hide it. 5. **This part doesn't work and I wish there was a way to make it happen - Place a callout around the original view corrected and reference the copy. Then hide the callout. I hoped that this would allow the corrected view in the addendum/supplemental/revision to automatically note what view it was correcting. But alas it refers bcak to the main view that created both copies. This part needs to be done manually.** That's where we stand on it. This is our first revit project now in construction!! Thankfully I get to go through all the painful first steps for the firm. Thanks to all of you for your gracious assistance and ideas.
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I think the Autodesk approach to this is the same approach I take. You should be treating your Revisions/Addendums as you would treat your SD package, DD Package, Construction Documents or Working Sheets. Create a PDF(or what ever your process is) once the Revisions/Addendum is issued.
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I agree with SRobbins1977. My early post about design options is way off base. ToThis is just another phase of the project. Archive / record your CD then create new documents.
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I read on the AUGi form a great suggestion by another user. He makes a border that is 8.5x11 and the border has a large mask region that hides everything outside of the 8.5x11 sheet. You cloud the revision on the original sheet and then you switch the border to the 8.5x11 border, position it around the clouded area, then print a dwf or pdf. After that you just undue until you are back to your original border. This may sound confusing, but once you give it a try it definitely is the best solution.
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Maybe, this is a question for Autodesk - But, I don't understand why we cannot "flatten" a model view into a drafting view. Seems like this would be an easy transitions from all of the standard drafting views since all of the lineweight info is in the model view- its just a simple conversion. I think this would solve alot of issues with freezing the model.
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See Revit Extensions. You can download from Autodesk Subscription site. Tool to freeze a view as a new view in a locked state. then place on Sheet. Only in 2009.
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to mthurnauer: this idea with the 8.5x11 border seems like a good idea....but how do you get the masked area to work? I masked a large area in the 8.5x11 titleblock, but it doesn't mask anything once it is brought into the project. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
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We used the family that is in the AUGI forum and it works great. To use, you will place this sheet on your drawing sheet - not in a view and you don't place a viewon it.
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You actually have to use a filled region. Masking regions dont pull through for some reason, they will only mask items in the family. Nick
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