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Fri, Oct 6, 2006 at 5:54:58 PM | Framing plans & models

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Building a simple two story house and want to be able to insert plywood web joists and platform framing. Any suggested tutorials? Having a hard time building a sill and top plate on the exterior walls. Thanks

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Sat, Oct 7, 2006 at 7:08:34 PM | RE: Framing plans & models

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Plywood web joists are easy. You should already have them in your family files. Now if you want to do top plate, bottom plate, studs, cripples, trimmers, headers, etc. you might be in for alot of frustration unless I'm missing something because I'd like to do that too. I know my old software, SoftPlan, does the framing of walls and such, but not a very good program compared to Revit.

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Sat, Oct 7, 2006 at 8:29:58 PM | RE: Framing plans & models

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I have done a whole house and the roof framing you have to go in and create the bottom plate and studs as a family and then incert them your'e self. It takes a while. I have some of the familys if you would like them please let me know.

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Sun, Oct 8, 2006 at 1:19:45 PM | RE: Framing plans & models

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hi framerman, if you have sometime could explain why you switched from Softplan to Revit. i was told the Softplan was actually better than Revit if you were only interested in doing residential. Best Regrards,

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Sun, Oct 8, 2006 at 2:14:50 PM | RE: Framing plans & models

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Absolutely! My experience is with ver. 11 so after that I don't know very much. I think they're up to 13. There are some great positives to SoftPlan. They do (simple) automatic generating of floor framing, wall framing, roof framing, etc. But I found that what you want your design to look like and the capability of SoftPlan to do what you want it to do are two different things. I had horrible experiences with roofs. You can't make many custom roofs. It's very limited. Some basic stuff is great, but I deal with a little more detail. SoftPlan is not very customizable. Also, if you ever have to change say an exterior wall, like add a window, you have to reprint pretty much your entire page layout system one by one. Redraw, import your title sheet, reprint, repeat for 6 pages. Revit is parametric and does it for you. That was key in my decision to switch. If you need to send your files to someone in AutoCAD format, they only have dxf. And the way they setup their drawing system is separate files in one folder. You'd have first floor as one file, second floor as one file, etc. You couldn't import the whole drawing into AutoCAD. So it was pretty much useless. However, their tech department was very good. Lifetime tech support. SoftPlan is collecting dust now. I found Revit hard to swallow at first also but Im getting the hang of it. Much simpler to learn than ADT in my opinion. Oh and one more thing, SoftPlan didn't have any type of forums or online help except for paid ones. Revit at least has this place and one or two others. I can easily draw in Revit faster than I can in SoftPlan. Don't let the commercial stuff fool you. Revit owns in residential. I did the drawing posted in less than one day. http://whittendesigns.com/gallery/7995-1600x1200.jpg Sorry, this is hijacking the thread.

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Sun, Oct 8, 2006 at 5:39:02 PM | RE: Framing plans & models

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I can't thank you all enough at least to give me direction. I am teaching a baker's dozen of graduate students Revit as part of a building tech curriculum. These are students who have an undergraduate degree in another field outside of Architecture; they come back to grad school to earn an M,Arch in three years from University of Illinois at Chicago. So our goal was to introduce building construction hand-in-hand with BIM so they could learn how buildings go to gether. In this case it's residential buildings. We're all learning via "The Noble Struggle" to learn, as we go along, myself keeping one step ahead as best I can or at least coaching them in the struggle. Thanks for confirming my impression that Revit seems to be more geared, at least as one acquires it, more towards larger commerical construction. We'll have to work on that family, it looks like. bolandereric, I'd be grateful for your direction on the families. Framerman, Coreed and Bolandereric, THANK YOU! (I guess this post is gonna get a lame rating :-) Jim McKay

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Sun, Oct 8, 2006 at 5:57:41 PM | RE: Framing plans & models

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I don't know if this will help but.... http://www.dgcad.com/Revit9.asp Check out the framing plan video. Maybe that's what you're looking for. I've seen most of this guy's stuff. It's pretty good. As far as Revit geared towards commercial, I wouldn't say so. I see many gallery images of homes. It's what you make it for yourself. It's both. It's many. It's a great program.

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