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I did a building in photshop recently posted to the gallery and alnqui stole my background and added his own building...
First off, It took a very long time to do that...
Learn the program and how to render and use mixed media...Dont steal someone elses design.
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I did a building in photshop recently posted to the gallery and alnqui stole my background and added his own building...
First off, It took a very long time to do that...
Learn the program and how to render and use mixed media...Dont steal someone elses design.
looking through your images, i guess he didn't steal your stolen star wars background, huh?
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My design that he stole the background from...
http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php?action=view&gallery_id=2890
here is his image
http://www.revitcity.com/gallery.php?action=view&gallery_id=2966
No it wasnt the star wars..
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I'm with you Timothy. The guy hasn't posted....ever. So you probably won't get any satisfaction. Too bad he did that to your nice design.
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thats awful man......as architects or designers...we should be more creative with our own design rather than copying someone else work. my sympathy is with you Tim.
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haha it only makes his design look more like a box than it is anyway. . its quite funny how he put his it directly in front kinda makes me wanna try and peak around his building so i dont think the background will help his overall render anyway. i say let him copy it aint gunna make him a better designer , id probably feel a bit pissed how he put his building in front like that atleast have it to the side and show some respect
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Hold Hold Hold.
I certainly do not condone what alnqui did, but hang on a sec, did Tim not do the exact same thing....Steal someone elses intellectual property. Whether it is alnqui stealing TIms or Tim stealing Lucas what on earth is the difference?
So I guess I totally agree with cpr12378
Shame shame on both...and double shame on Tim for crying foul on a principil he has no respect for himself.
anyone else agree?
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Rubiks:
I can see what you are saying but they havent done the same thing. They both copied images, but Tim referenced his. In the image description he gave props to the Lucas boys for the background pic, whereas alnqui only said anything after he was found out...
So its probably more a case of giving credit where credit is due, rather than simply keeping hands off each others pixels....
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You guys are serious about posting images on here you should always include a copyright because this stuff is very valuable, either way its still intellectual property and if timothyj wanted to take legal action against alnqui he could.
It's kinda sad though...this stuff happens in the Architecture business alot even with big firms, and not just with renderings but actual buildings that have been built. At the firm I use to work at, the owner use to show off exterior images of buildings that he only did interior tenant fitouts for. He would basically show off these grand exterior designs on all of his marketing, when he had nothing to do with the exteriors...pretty dishonest...hence one of the many reasons I no longer work there.
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I think it is an issue of credit, as well as an issue of fair use.
In terms of credit, if you ever use an image you did not generate from a blank page, you should technically give credit to whatever did pre-exist. However, this is somewhat impossible. Public Domain and Fair Use make it even trickier to decide when copyrights have been infringed upon. These incluse photos, representations, and pretty much anything that isn't under copyright. Coryright is very easy to assert, so in that sense the burden is on the creator. If you don't assert your ownership, it appears to be public domain and is very difficult to claim. Intellectual property claims are MUCH harder to make, usually require a lawyer, and as such cost money. Copyright issues are usually much simpler to prove and handle.
(EDIT: I did not mention that everything "creative" is technically copy protected, the notice makes it so that the copier can't filch out of punishment under the "I didn't know" defense)
Just so everyone knows, to copyright a drawing/image you must do the following:
(1) the symbol © (the letter C in a circle), or the word “Copyright”, or the abbreviation “Copr.”; and
(2) the year of first publication of the work; in the case of compilations, or derivative works incorporating previously published material, the year date of first publication of the compilation or derivative work is sufficient. The year date may be omitted where a pictorial, graphic, or sculptural work, with accompanying text matter, if any, is reproduced in or on greeting cards, postcards, stationery, jewelry, dolls, toys, or any useful articles; and
(3) the name of the owner of copyright in the work, or an abbreviation by which the name can be recognized, or a generally known alternative designation of the owner.
(This was copied from the following website from Cornell Law School: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000401----000-.html)
In addition, Wikipedia has a nice and mostly correct entry on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_FAQ
It's so easy that we have no excuse for not using it once we know how. So, now you know...
Adios!
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I hear what your laying down 'hisdirt'
however you say tim referenced lucas, and therefor gave credit where credit was due.
But my first reply stands I think because intellectual property should instead be a about getting permission where permission is due.
neither did that
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I'm just playing devils advocate...I really think using backgrounds you did not create on projects that are not for profit is fine....of course 'props out are nice'
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Kellycone, thats some pretty usefull information regarding copyright, and it does make it sound quite easy.
Rubis, yeah I agree that people should get permission where possible, its more a matter of courtesy really.
ps. nice image on the gallery! Cool use of hidden line + shadows. And no annoying background image to nessecitate giving 'props out' to...
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