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I know this sounds like a very general/basic question, but from what I hear, they are very powerful.
What are JOURNAL FILES? Where are they found? How do you use them?
I heard that you could basically convert them to text, drop them onto revit, and it would pretty much recreate an entire revit model.
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there found at
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they are powerful and can recreate whole drawing, BUT they only keep the jornal from every save. so unless you made your model with only one save i don't think they will be usefull for you. i use when swapping 2D familes for 3D families.
if you let me know what exactly your trying to do, i'll try to help.
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Thank you for thr prompt reply. I found them about 2.3 seconds after I sent the post... If patience is a virtue, I am not a very virtuous person...
I am sending a corrupted file to the AutoDesk Subscription folks and they requested the journal file along with a few other items. They are attempting to recreate a crash I had this morning because of a simple family containing nothing but a simple extrusion and an associated object style.
The technician mentioned the journal file being able to basically recreate the file from the last save. This has been a desire of mine on a number of other jobs in our office because a particular user had not saved in a long while before a crash. This doesn't happen a lot, but when we could potentially lose hours of work, it would be a sweet trick to try.
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Also, how do the journal files work in relation to the CENTRAL file vs. the local user file? I cannot imagine how a local user's journal file would be applied without potentially messing up another user's work.
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first off- i made a mistake in the last post. the jornal keeps track of all key strokes from when it was opened to when it was closed not from SAVE to SAVE. SORRY.
yep i see what you are trying to do.
it can sometimes be used for this.
it is sometimes very hard to do.
make a practice file
goes something like this
you open revit
you open a file say called "jonathans-house"
you work on the drawing for say 5 hrs and you don't save.
then the drawing crashes.
first thing to do is
find the jornal file
make a copy of it for back up incase u curse it up
edit the file in note pad
i normally delete out the last 10 commands
make sure you take out the close command.
example
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Jrn.Directive "WindowSize" _
, "[test2.rvt]", "Floor Plan: Level 1" _
, 506, 381
Jrn.Directive "WindowSize" _
, "[test2.rvt]", "Floor Plan: Level 1" _
, 710, 361
Jrn.Directive "WindowSize" _
, "[test2.rvt]", "Elevation: East" _
, 538, 588
Jrn.Directive "WindowSize" _
, "[test2.rvt]", "Elevation: East" _
, 742, 568
Jrn.Directive "ActivateView" _
, "[test2.rvt]", "Elevation: East"
' idle0_doc
' SC_CLOSE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
then resave the file
then make sure all revit sessions are closed
the drag the jornal file onto the revit icon.
it does work if you get it right.
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it get very mess if there are worksets involved but can be done,
i would never practice this kind of thing on a live project, instead make a small model and when no one is in the office practice it.
post your email address and ill forward you a tutorial that i have prepared that makes use of the jornal file. not for exactly what you want to do but it may be a good starting point for you.
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Trying a "dog house" right now. I'll try a regular file first, then rope another "qualified user" into trying a "workset divided" version.
I would love to see the tutorial. Thank you very much.
email is jcary@ncgarch.com
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file is on the way,
this tutorial hasn't been 100% finished so please don't distribute it. it works put still has get the finishing touches.
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Thanks again.
These journal files seem to be VERY powerful in the right hands. I was able to recreate a "days work" that was "lost" in a simulated crash. It's really cool to watch Revit trace your steps...
I have many variables to try out (multiple files loaded in a single Revit session, worksets, design options, etc.), but I am very optimistic.
While we try to tell users to STC often, sometimes they do not listen and lose valuable work in a crash or a freeze up. This gives us a way to recoup some of the work.
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