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Hi.
When I copy some elements or groups and use the option to aligne them to selected levels
some of them would host to diffirent level than I chose with offset that makes them look like they're now hosted to the selected ones.
But they're not.
Wtf?
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Are you using the copy/paste process or somehow working in an elevation or section? Groups should not be a problem but without knowing specifics I can't say more.
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In a floor plan select anything (floor, walls)-> ctr+c-> modify -> paste/aligned to selected levels....
if this is what you asked.
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ctrl-c is copy.
You need to copy to clipboard using the clipboard tool then pick pasted aligned using the clipboard tool.
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Do you have linked files? I had this issue when I had linked revit files in the file I was working on.
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Yes I have linked model and clouds but when pasting elements they allign to wrong levels of my model not of the linked.
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"...allign to wrong levels of my model not of the linked." << Are you trying to pick the linked model levels? That will not work.
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This was reply to previous post.
Once again: when I use 'aligned to selected level' elements are pasting but to nearby level with offset. So they look like they're pasted properly But they're not.
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I can assure you that this is either a process error or a problem with your loaded program. I have used this process for over 10 years and it has never failed.
You have never said what Revit you are using and what updates are installed. If you are using a version where there was an early release problem that was fixed with an update, that is a possibility. We never fully install a version until update 1 is released because that typically fixes any outstanding glitches.
We can only respond to the information you provide.
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Model was created in 2015. Then upgraded to 2016 and then to 2017. Always same problem.
It happens especially with groups. Group is aligned to some leels but its elements to another with offset. Sometimes they levitate and I can't move them manually.
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Groups can be problems in many ways but there is no way we can help you there. So much depends on how the elements are build and how they were placed initially before grouping. But even so, I use a lot of groups for our hotel rooms and we do not see any problems.
I have been using groupings for hotel rooms that included walls, doors, ceilings, lighting, plumbing fixtures and accessories as well as artwork and other furnishings. We were doing this starting in 2006. I will say that there are things that you will learn overtime about elements in groups including what NOT to group. It was a steep learning curve initially because there were other problems that have been mostly corrected since then. The biggest problem was mirrored groups. We learned to never do that because some elements would not mirror correctly. Even though some of those issues may have been corrected, we still build left and right hand groups. Another issue is paying attention to group origin. This can be messed up by other users.
Upgraded projects can have some problems but if your problems started from the beginning, then I doubt that is your issue and I'm sure that upgrading the project will not fix the problem.
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Groups are other problem I'm fighting with. Sometimes they are placed with strange angle although they were created with 'straight' angles.
I wrote about versions because you asked The problem started in previous versions. For now I,m just checking levels after each aligning
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Like I said, I had the same problem when trying to align groups to certain levels and I figured out that it was because I had linked files. The linked files were typical floors so they had one level and the main file had so many levels. I think this is what messes up the alignment. Although I figured the cause, I could never figure out the solution.  I hope something works out for you because I know this can be such a wastage of time.
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I'm going to take a wild guess, but this happens to me when there are "IN PLACE MASS" or "IN PLACE FAMILIES" associated with the group (inside the group).
Next up is to disassotiate doors/windows with your group.
Next is to disassociate wall/floor/ceiling hosted families.
Once you start getting down to just floors, walls and ceilings you shouldn't have any of those issues you're talking about. I can't remember which one of those things I mentioned above it is, but that's what it was for me.
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