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Hello,
I would like to join my regular wall (pink) with half-circle (in-place model, black) in that way that line between them won't be projected. Moreover I would like to have same way of color projection - generally both of elements should be the same (they are cast in-situ at same time). Grey part of image is existing structure.
Maybe some of you has better idea how to prepare that kind of wall with half-circle end? I would be happy to find out most automatic way to do it.
Regards.
EDIT: I have similar problem, when I am trying to place a concrete beam, slightly curved. When I am using "cut geometry" tool I receive answer: "Cuts on concrete members are ignored.". I need concrete beam to be in contact with wall (see attachment https://www.dropbox.com/s/dup1sxmplsu1k2u/revitcity2.PNG?dl=0). Problem doesn't exist in case of steel beams.
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Your image is meaningless.
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This half circle is embedded in the existing wall? Why model? Would seem to be a detail element.
Don't model the arc wall. Extend your wall and cut the end with a vertical in-place void.
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@WWHub The model shows diaphragm walls and to connect new phase with already existing there is a need to use that half-circle, which is embedded, as you noticed, to existing wall. For me it isn't a detail element: it should be visible in plan scale 1:100 that end of wall is half-circle instead rectangular.
I've tried to use your method (which seems to be a good solution), but I receive following message (see also attachment): "Some Void Forms of this family do not cut anything and will be deleted. To make a Void Form cut something else use the Cut Geometry tool.". I've tried to use different shapes of voids and still I get the same error. What's next step?
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You have to follow the correct process.
First, I always name the void and place it in the correct category. In this case, it would be wall.
Next - before finishing the void in-place form, you have to assign the cut geometry - not afterwards.
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@WWHub, I've done what you've said.
- Create / Void Forms: Void Extrusion.
- Then fix Exstrusion End and Extrusion Start.
- Create correct (or even very simple) shape.
The error communicate is still the same. There is a possibility that I not understand correctly your words, for that I can say only sorry.
If you will have some spare minutes, please take a look to my model: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i4qn07ls74xo439/Model.rvt?dl=0
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You don't say what Revit so you will have to live with this 2015 file.
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Are you using ‘pick lines’ option when creating a void? Somehow the association of the void arc with the other arc messes things up. To brake that relation, pull/stretch the arc, or move it and bring it back to its original location. It should work now.
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I still can't get correct solution. Just to show you what problem exactly I have, I prepared a video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4zyq9sajz5dzuh/Void%20Extrusion%20Problem.mp4?dl=0.
Previously I chose Structure/Component/Model in Place: Wall.
I can't do any extrusion, not only that one for half-circle.
@pijpiwo, I was using pick lines previously, but it doesn't work even for normal rectangular as you can see above.
What I am doing wrong?
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See picture.
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Thank you !
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One more question, connected with that topic: it was at the end very easy to modify one/two places in model, but what if I need to round all places where wall changes its direction? Is it possible to somehow do it quicker, without using extrusion? (for clarity see attachment)
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With a wall tool active, use ‘fillet’. Radius cannot be smaller than half the wall thickness though.
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If your walls are not joined, you can use a face based void family that cuts the host and place that on the end of your walls.
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