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Dear experts!
Does anyone know how to make door frames schedule?
Is it possible to create a "Frame" caregory?
Will appreciate any advice.
Thanks
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We schedule the frame as a door property rather than a seperate schedule. If the door family is built correctly, the frame geometry can be isolated in a legend component.
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Thank you, WWHub. I will try to explain it to my manager, but they schedule door frames as separate schedules, and they do it for decades. I already suggested them to do schedule frames inside the window schedule, but they cannot change all their system.
What do you mean by "if frames are designed properly"? I just makeparametric dooor families and cannot separate frames in a special category.
Please advice.
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If you build frames seperately from doors and use the door template you may wind up with a mess because they schedule as doors. Take a look at the image below using a stock door. It schedules the frames using a door schedule. Look at the legend too.
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Thank you very much!!!!!!
The picture helps better than many explanations.
I tried to make a door schedule, just renaming it as a Frame schedule. Do you think it could work?
I'll try to convince the company one more time.
Much obliged!
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Absolutly it will work.
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Dear WWHub;
Thank you very much for the advice.
I have a couple more questions. Our frames are parametric, but I do not sure what do yoyu mean by "Built properly".
Please explain. They are just a mass in a window family with a different material. Do you think I should assign them some other parameter? How do you suggest to "Isolate" frames as a separate legend component? Can it be isolated as a schedule component?
I created a "Frame Type" parameter in the door families, added this field / parameter to the schedule, but the frme parameters which I assigned to the door types do not appear automatically in the schedule. Should I add them manually?
Your help would be very important to me.
Thanks.
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You don't say - are the frames a nested family? I would not do that because I don't see a need.
I don't like to use the term mass unless it is a mass. Mass is a category. Take a look at the stock windows. The fame is either a sweep or extrusions (not a mass) in the frame category. That is what I mean by being built correctly.
Because the frame is in the correct category, it can be contolled seperately in the project VG settings. The frame legend component I show in my earlier post is not a seperate legend component. It is the door.... with the door panel, swing etc turned off in VG and just the frame showing. And the schedule is a door schedule but shows the frame parameters along with the necessary door parameters. If you have your frames in a seperate family and are scheduling that, then that is the hard way to do this.
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Thanks a lot.
So, I see that I am on the right track. I make the frames as a sweep or extrusion. I use door schedule for frames. i guess i understand that your image is the image of the doors with turned off door panels.
The problem is that I don't know how to assign the 'frame" parameter to a door family to make it appear automatically in the schedule.
I tried different ways, amd every time it ends up that i should type it in the schedule manually.
How did you do it?
Thanks.
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I don't think you hear yet what I am saying. The frame is created in the same family as the door. Please spend some time looking at how the stock doors are done and the attached image.
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Thanks a lot, WWHub.
Your final image was critical. It helped me with this small hindrance - assigning a subcategory. Everything works well.
Just in the Item parameters the Frame type is under "Construction" section and does not show anything. Why it is so?
Again, thanks a lot. You saved me.
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Because you used the wrong template. You have not told us anything about your process.
I don't know what you mean by: "... the Frame type is under "Construction" section...". The image I give is in the family editor - not the project. Please post your family because we can't go any furthur by guessing.
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Thank you for the reply.
I understand that it is a family on your image. I I don't understand how you made it working in schedules.
I am placing mt family. Is the resolution good enough?
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Please post this door family!
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Please see the attached.
I think now it works somehow, but i am not sure if I did it correctly.
Thank you.
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