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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:53:46 AM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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I am trying to do a project for my office and it has a lot of similar walls and casework and everything in it. When I go to copy a wall or a table or a light or anything, it automatically moves the copied item to the floor above instead of keeping it on the floor that it should be on since I am not copying it to another floor. That's not a copy. I am still on the same floor plan and no other floor plan is open or anything. I am not new to Revit. Been using it since 2008 and this has never happened to me. Please help. The photos are the same wall, minus a foot, but I copied and it moves it to the first floor and does a -13' offset from the first floor for the base. This doesn't happen for casework. Casework goes onto the floor above with no offset. PLEASE HELP. We are just looking for a fix because this is a big project and this is not helping us with our deadline



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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:23:31 AM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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You only show us wall properties so I can only respond to this.

 

I think this is the same wall in space but obviously, it has a different reference plane that it is working from.  It was built on th "Construction Plan" level and 0 offset for start point.   The copy is built on the first floor so it has to have a negative offset to start at teh same level in space.   So what is the rule here?  If you want it to be exactly the same, then do it from the correct level or edit the base constraint afterwards.

 

If by copy, you mean you want the same type of walls and height but you want it at a different level, then either pick and create similar or copy to cliboard and paste aligned to selected level(s).


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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:33:30 AM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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What is happening is that I literally have nothing going on the first floor. I could delete the first floor and it would still do the same thing and move it up. (Hypothetical Situation):-> If I were to be on the Construction Plan floor and copy a table 2 inches from the original table, it would copy but put it ALWAYS on the level above it. It doesn't make any sense as to why it does this. I want the same properties and same everything as the original version. I want it to be on the Construction Plan floor and go from 0'-0" to 13'-0" which is how high it is to the next floor. I want my table to be at 0'0" on the Construction Plan floor and not on the First Floor. I never want anything on the first floor at all but it always moves everything to the first floor


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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:35:59 AM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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The ctrl+c and paste does the exact same thing and moves it to the first floor


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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:49:36 AM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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The create similar worked for the casework but not for the walls. Quite possibly because of the chamfer that was talken out of it. Sadly we have to do those because they are existing and structural. Thank you though


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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:57:50 PM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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The create similar actually doesn't work because it still just makes the same thing but doesn't make into the same orientation at all. I just don't understand why it is doing what it does


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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:17:31 PM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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I don't believe you are doing the copy to clipboard / paste aligned to selected levels.   This process works!   I think you are only doing copy/paste.


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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:22:11 PM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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Still moves my walls up to the first floor. I did that correctly and it still moves things up to the first floor. Is there a way to change the default floor things go on? Deleting the first floor slab fixed the casework but didn't fix the wall problem


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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:39:00 PM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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I believe you are having some real process issues.   Here are some possibilities:

  1. Improperly created views - (Views copied, renamed to a different level)
  2. Work planes changed from the associated view level
  3. Items placed on wrong level but set to a different level by the families offset setting
  4. Copying items from a different level because of view depth or underlay

Deleting the floor slab would have nothing to do with the problems you describe.


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Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:46:45 PM | Copying issue. Objects copied automatically go to floor above

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How do you change the work plane? That is the only one I can think of that may be an issue with the walls because we got the casework to work for us but the walls still and may forever always copy to the next floor above


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