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Hi guys. I'm still learning Revit and am trying to wrap my head around the best draw up Tilt Panel construction. I'm using Revit 2013 Student Version.I have made my own Curtain Wall type with a Tilt Panel Curtain Panel. I have included the Curtain Panel family file if anyone wants to check it out. It doesn't require mullions or fiddling with hiding said mullions.. but does use the grid to seperate the panels. The panel thickness, edge rebating and gap between panels should be fully parametric, but I wonder if I am doing this the right way. I have several questions:

1. I am unable to attach my Curtain Wall type to sloping roofs, whether attaching them to a ref plane, mass by face or using edit profile. For whatever reason my panel type is unable to accept anything fancy. I'm sure it can be done, so I wonder where I went wrong here and what the fix is?

2. In the family editor, the sides of my wall come in from the outer ref planes by a variable amount. Is this bad practice? Will it cause scheduling issues when it comes to reporting volume / weight (also, any help on formulas to report these?)3. While this works great for a a line of panels, it doesn't work properly for corners (joined walls) and it requires some fiddling to get it exactly right. I could ditch the variable gap in the family and use invisible mullions, is this better practice.4. Centerlines? I want the location lines on the exterior face. Do I have to offset them with move, or make a few different families for them with the reference plane where I need the location lines?Appreciate any help in advance,Cheers, Morgan. 

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Okay, so I didn't "flex" my family well and the constraints were a little broken. This second version should be better..

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My apologies for the multiple posts, for some reason refreshing my browser reposted.. Ooops.I have found a VERY good tutorial which unfortunately only touches on this issue, but in case U, like me are looking for an answer for this: http://bimerworld.blogspot.ca/2012/06/autodesk-revit-structure-3d-detailing.html Around 40-45 minutes in he discusses the problem I am having. 

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Obviously the curtain wall panel type is not as flexible as I'd like, so I've switched to a basic wall panel and I get the behaviour I am looking for (in regards to profile editting etc..). Now I tried making my own mullion profile to cut the chamfer out of the panels.. But it's not creating a void, or cutting the walls panels. Obviously I'm using the wrong tool. Any hints where to go from here? I've attached a picture of what I'm getting:Cheers 

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Well aren't I the popular one? I'm trying everything to get this going right. The final version I would to reduce the volume of the wall in schedules and so forth, but for now I'll be happy with getting it working. Latest attempt is a Metric - Profile of my chamfer (I created 4 versions around the insertion point to find the correct orientation). So I then made two Wall - Reveal types using the correct profiles and can apply them to the edges of a wall. It works, but I haven't been able to apply it to the Structure of a basic wall type so that I can use it as a panel in a curtain wall system. I know someone out there has the answer for this and heaven knows I've looked, but can't find it. Any takers? Here's my basic wall with reveals applied: 

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In my opinion, you were more on the right track at the beginning of the thread than now. You started with a curtain panel family, with  the chamfers and the gap. That's exactly how I have done, and it works.

Now you switched to walls with reveals? Now you are limited to what you can do in the walls' type properties window. The first approach of using the family editor gives you more possibilities.

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Alf is right, use "CW"

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Cheers, appreciate the advice..Spent a good deal of time playing with all my options. Basic panels, curtain panels, basic walls and the custom in-place family hack. I have found the curtain panel is still the easiest to use and most well behaved option and am happy to continue with it.. My only concern is that I have very little flexibility with the profile of the panels. I need to be able to do sloping panel profiles to align with the roof, but am so far unable to get this result with curtain panels. Any ideas what the trick is here?Thanks for your help. 

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A panel is just a rectangular panel. The panel adjusts its shape to the profile of the curtain wall. For example, when a curtain wall is attached to a sloped roof.

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