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my exterior elevations in revit are extremely flat because all of the various planes seem to be printed with identical line weights. does revit have a way of distinguishing receding planes with lighter line weights? i can't seem to find any settings for this type of issue.
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The short answer is not yet.
There are however a couple of other options to consider.
1. Try using the advanced model graphics "silhoutte edges" this will perk things up a bit.
2. Use the "Linework" tool on your elevation to "pick" the lines yu want to be heavier/lighter. The Linework tool is the old fashioned fountain pen icon. You use the tool to change an individual line to a new type.
3. Tweak you object styles to get closer to what you need then use combination of 1 and 2 above.
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I would go with option 2, using the line tool, for the simple reason of you having more control this way, the override silhoutte will not distinguish between different elements and you might get a very "fat" elevation...
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Regarding the line style over-ride feature: I'm finding that when I use the line style feature to adjust the display of a line that the adjusted line no longer hides behind foreground objects. What's your recommendation for working around this?
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The problem with the lineweight tool is that there may be several lines in the same place. If you choose one that is partially hidden by something else, it may then appear when you change it. Then if you pick that line and tell it to be invisible, it may hide the line you want. I often punch out nearer masses using 2d linework just as I would have if I drafted it. Not the best solution but it is an option.
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We typically enable shadows in elevation to give them some depth. However, printing takes a major hit when you do this...
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We started doing shadows too as well as shading with edges but B/W prints. You have to play around with the non-rendered shading colors, the advanced model graphics for your shade values and work with your printer a bit but the elevations really start to read. Like Mr. Spot says though, it does take awhile to print these views. I haven't tried it but I also think you don't want to mix raster plots with vector plots in the same batch.
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One way we tried to do this and it seemed to work fairly well is to create masses that we could place infront of the walls in eleveation. We have one that had a transparency set to 50pct, 25pct, 75pct, etc. This way we could just shade out what we wanted to a tone we liked. Doesnt always work for everything you are trying to do, but i found this a neat way to do this, and quite helpful...though i do suggest trying the other suggestions first, and use the shading mass as a last resort.
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"Regarding the line style over-ride feature: I'm finding that when I use the line style feature to adjust the display of a line that the adjusted line no longer hides behind foreground objects. What's your recommendation for working around this?" I have found that when you use the "Linework" tool and it shows too much of the line you can use the blue control grips on the overridden line to adjust where the overide begins and ends. This is useful for your situation because you can make the overidden portion stop at the next available edge. This may take a while if you have a lot of these situations though.
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" "Regarding the line style over-ride feature: I'm finding that when I use the line style feature to adjust the display of a line that the adjusted line no longer hides behind foreground objects. What's your recommendation for working around this?" I have found that when you use the "Linework" tool and it shows too much of the line you can use the blue control grips on the overridden line to adjust where the overide begins and ends. This is useful for your situation because you can make the overidden portion stop at the next available edge. This may take a while if you have a lot of these situations though." Aha! Thanks James! That's exactly what I was looking for! You are an Ace! Now what we need is a way to select multiple lines for "linework" tool adjustment. Lesson learned - always pay attention to those blue dots! Though it can be exceedingly tedious, I'm finding that a combination of line weight adjustment, masks, filled regions and shadows improve the readability of elevations tremendously! I'm looking forward to trying out the semi-transparent objects to simulate depth of field. Yes, it takes a long time to print elevations with shadows but it's worthwhile. Printing to PDF seems to work better and reduces the time required for subsequent prints. Thanks to all for the helpful advice!
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