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Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:42:52 PM | newbie novice

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Hi all! I am so glad to have you as a resource.  I have one Revit project under my belt and started working in a new firm this week.  They want me to be the Revit lead /expert.  They are still running on AutoCAD 2002.  oh boy. I hope to lean on you all here pretty heavily in the coming months.  Forgive my ignorant questions and thanks for having me!


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Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:03:48 PM | newbie novice

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Well good luck to you.

 

No offense to you at all but the fact that a firm is naming you project lead/EXPERT(?!) on a Revit project when you have admittedly very little experience is baffling to me. Actually it's not baffling... I am sure you either falsely represented your Revit skills or they are paying you for your experience (which isn't much).

 

Again, no offense, but this is the exact reason why these dinosaurs (i.e. people using AC2002) end up hating Revit and BIM... they all hear how great this technology is and how beneficial it can be to their firm but they seem to completely forget about the fact that it's only these things when used correctly! 

 

They probably are trying to save a buck by hiring you but that will be negated when your lack of Revit experience results in exceding the time and money budgeted for the project. Then they will curse Revit and BIM and go back to the stone age (AutoCAD) because "they can do it in the same amount of time with less mistakes!".

 

It's too bad you aren't getting your on the job experience working under someone that truly is a project lead/Revit expert and can show you properly how to navigate through a project so you can one day live up to that title they bestowed upon you prematurely... but I guess that is what RevitCity is for right? Anyway, I hope this doesn't happen to you but with what I have witnessed in this field I wouldn't count on it...


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Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:16:28 AM | newbie novice

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Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:16:54 AM | newbie novice

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Every firm has to start somewhere and going out and hiring an "expert" is not always possible or wanted.  I was asked to help with Revit conversion with little experiecnce also and with some self teaching, tutorials, the mastering Revit book and trial and error things worked out great. 

Those are some pretty negative comments from revitape and also a little rude even with the "no offense" included.

I don't know how extensive your Revit training is beyond the one project but I would suggest checking out CADclips.com, and youtube for some tutorials and also the mastering revit book for references and some help also.  Do your homework and play with revit on your own time if needed and you will be fine.  Revit is an amazing program.

 

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Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:21:11 AM | newbie novice

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Good luck in your new position.  It looks like you have a job cut out for you. Nothing like under the gun training  - but expected if these guys are still on 2002 CAD. 

 

Because these guys are CAD only - you will have a lot of battles ahead.  For now, I suggest you concentrate on developing a Revit implementation.  That is hard enough.

 

You don't say if you are LEED certified.  If not, that will take some time and it will be a distraction from getting Revit accepted.


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Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:20:30 AM | newbie novice

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  If you are working for a small firm then OK; become Revit lead. If you are working for a Medium to Larger firm then RevitApe is correct. This is how Revit gets a bad rap. Yeah, at one time there wasn't a lot of Revit experts and you had no choice but to grind it out and that's not the case anymore. If your firm can afford it, the best thing is to hire a Revit expert and save all the money you are going to lose in your project by using Revit poorly.

 Implementing Revit honesty is time consuming but not hard; you just need one person who really knows Revit well to setup the templates and build content libraries. If you failed at that you are screwed. Next, now this is the hard part finding the right people to use it. Revit is an awesome tool but if you have interns aka Cad Monkeys you are in a lot of trouble. If you don't know how the building systems work you definitely shouldn't be building Revit models. This is the biggest mistake I see repeated all the time. This is why Revit is so hard for some, you can teach someone very quickly on how to use Revit. But, you can't teach them how to be an architect or engineer quickly. Most Revit models I've seen from Cad Monkey are poorly constructed 2.5D Revit models and that gives the rest of us real Revit Users a blackeye.

Sorry to be so negative, but I seen enough crappy Revit model to last me a life time. I use to worked for a Revit service provider and we built 100's of models a year for Architect and Engineers because they failed at Revit and they alway asked us if we could fix their poorly constructed models and the anwser is NO. Start over! 

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Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:42:51 AM | newbie novice

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Welcome to RevitCity. Best of Luck. you do have your work cut out for you. Tell your boss that anyone who is not on board with the change to go Revit does not need to be involved. Tell him that Revit needs to be implemented and not installed. This implemetation cannot be done with one person, no more than you run a hospital with one single general practitiononer. Again, best of luck to you.


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