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Has anyone found a good way to deal with this:

I have a 5' double doors, I demo them, revit inserts a new wall in the hole, I place a new cased opening 5' wide, get more demo lines in the "new wall" filled in previously...its kind of a mess.

What is the best way (graphicaly) to turn a swing door into a cased opening? so as not to get that "new wall" filling in first?

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Why not design options?

DO#1 - Has the host wall and swing door demoed.  This DO is set to show in demo plans.

DO#2 - Has a copy of the host wall with cased opening. This DO set to show only in new plans.

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This should be in phases.  The double doors are built in Existing and demoed in New Construction.The cased opening is created in New Construction.  It should do what you want.    I can;t imagine a contracter building a double door, immediately demoing it, then putting in a cased opening, so they should not all be in the same phase.   The caveat, is that if you are trying to use the cased opening family from the revit library it has dashed lines that show up in plan.  Modify the family not to show those (or download one from revit city)-it may be what you are seeing

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I like the DO option. seems a little involved though.

Lizard. you're not quite getting it. When you demo an existing door from and existing wall, you get a new wall fill in, you cant get rid of this. you cant delete it. all im doing is trying to make an existing swing door into a cased opening...

What I did was: I just placing a new cased opening in an existing wall. adding a note. Instead of demo-ing the existing swing door. I just deleted that part.

still, I got it to be pretty good graphically, just a little weird with the "new wall fill in"

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I thought I was getting it.  You have an existing french door which (in "reality"-I am not speaking Revit here), you want to eliminate.  But, you don;t want to close the wall off, you just want to remove the leafs, hinges, patch the jamb (or replace) so it is a cased opening.  In Revit speak, you are demoing the EXISTING french doors in the NEW CONSTRUCTION phase, and making it a cased opening in the NEW CONSTRUCTION phase.  As such, you need to add a cased opening the same width as the old door.  See the attached image.....I don;t THINK I am losing my mind here, but crazy people don;t know they are going crazy, so I may be in trouble

EDIT:  Please let me know if I am going crazy, or this is what you were looking for.  Thanks.

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OK Liz, you're not going crazy!, you got it in RL

Its just IN REVIT you cant get from double doors to plain cased opening, because the demo tool adds the wall bit. then the new door cuts that new wall out...in revit. just a new cased opening, and a note saying "remove (E) Doors, leave opening" is enough. :-)

ps. THANKS FOR THE DRAWING! even if it was quick, I appreciate the time you took to do that.

-Warc.

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no worries...a picture is worth....well, you know...you're an architect!  I hear you on the double effort.  Although I have found it helpful at times because by adding the cased opening, it will show up in my door schedule, and then in remarks I can say to patch and repair, etc (just in case I forget to add the note!).  So, at least in my opinion there are advantages.  That's the other reason why I made my own cased opening, because Revit's is not a "door" for some silly reason...it's a generic model.  We have always numbered our COs as if they were doors and included them on our door schedule.  Anyway.

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Warchitect

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Now why didn't I think of that! door family cased opening....niiiice.

DUh!

Thanks

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This is an odd work around but it seems to be working for me graphically...

Create a cased opening in existing to the proper width, then place your door in the exact same place. Set the doors to created existing, demo in demo phase. Make your cased opening created existing, no demo.

Attached you see the demo drawing on the left and the new const on the right.

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Warchitect

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Yes, I almost went that direction too. Its cool in one respect, Revit really does give you a lot of options...:-)

one just has to ask

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