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hi guys! im new to revit so please be patient with me.
I have some qns. My attached staircase is below
1) how do I attach railings on stringers? I tried to host my railing on the stairs..but each time i finished..it remain horizontal on the floor levels. This only happens when i have stringers.
2) I tried many times to attach a continuous railing around my center spine wall but i couldnt. And i cant find a nice continuos railing in the family explorer here. How do i create a clean continous railing along the spine wall (tt means...the railing has no posts but is however attached to the wall)?
3) I have been trying to learn to create my own family...& it looks like im failing everytime. I need some nice railings for the outer edge of the stairs & also a continous railing on the inner side (attached to the wall)? does anyone have a share?
4) Im trying to do some detailing and i was wondering if there is ANY way that I can turn my model elevation or sections i generated, into the Drafting view (editable in 2D)? I tried one method...it was to export to Autocad, & then import tt Autocad file back into Revit's drafting view...but it turned out way too messy. The reason why I ask this, is because I'd like to edit my modelled Staircase 3d view showing some 3d details (hence i need to convert it to drafting view) etc. The other qn is... is it also possible to create a callout from a drafting view?..its possible in modelled sections, elevations n plans..but is it possible in drafting view?
I'll attach what my escape stair looks like so u guys will have an idea.
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I'm not sure about attaching a new railing to an existing stair but you can create railings under modeling. There you can selected the railing and edit it including making you own profiles for railings and balister posts. Quite complicated but it works well when you get the hang of it.
In general. Making new families took time to understand. Think about what it is you want to be able to do with youyr family first. Set the family up with reference lines and reference planes apply dimensions to these and then make them parameters. when you are sure they are working well begin extrusions. you can add reference lines and plane later on in the construction process but they can cause problems. Most of this doesn't apply to railings as parameters won't come in with those kind of families.
Editing/making pretty 3D views or plans sections and elevations.
You can use the linework tool to tart up your line work apply variuos linetypes including invisible lines.
Also draw a filled region over something with various linestyles appropriate to the area over which you are drawing. Include invisible lines to crop out areas. Make the filled region have no pattern and you can blank out an area.
Details components are great to for repeated details.
You can't create a callout in drafting view that I know about. Copy with detailing and crop the peice out of it. In drafting veiw objects appear nowhere else in the drawing so if you delete of cut a line or component it is only cut or deleted in that view.
Sounds like you need to manage youyr export settings a bit better. can't help you too much there. Maybe export to autoCad then import and without exploding apply lines by pick then delete the imported DWG and trim it up.
By the sounds of things you should opt for trimming existing plans, sections and elevations until your skills improve.
Hope some of this helped.
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1. Use the set host in your railing sketch. Also make sure you break your sketch line at the begining and end of each flight. Revit needs this to happen so it can make one part flat and the other part sloped. If you don't it gets confused.
2 & 3. Your railing will be still hosted by the stair. Check out the Autodesk Revit web library (load family-->click web library) there is a project there that is a mass of pre-setup stairs and railings. There are also railings created with wall brackets which i what i believe your after.
4. As Shaun suggested simply callout your 3D model to a drafting view using reference other view (I don't recommend doing this however) this enables you to detail from scratch OR callout to a "detail view" then use filled regions/detail components and linework to create the detail as required.
As a general rule i always try to use as much 3D geometry as possible. Means if there are changes my views are updated.
HTH.
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Presentavit allows you to create amusing callouts and add them to movie. You can be able to adjust callouts' color, size, transparency. Create movie with amusing and informative caallouts. It also does various functions too. Just take a look at it : http://presentavid.com/PresentaVid/
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Sorry to bump this thread after it has been inactive for a while. Looking up at MrSpot's post, where is this project with all different types of stairs and railings? We could really use those families right now. Thanks for the help.
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It should now be a defualt project file in your families listing that autodesk has provided. If it does not appear what you could do is to re-install your revit but with all family file options.
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I have already dug through our Revit out-of-the-box directory and couldn't find it. We recently upgraded everyone to 2009 and included the newest families in our network directory, so I think we have the most up-to-date files. Could someone just post that file or link me to an external site that has it posted? Thanks.
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Hi there, the file is too large. I wonder if there is another method for uploading files.
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You may have forgotten to attach the file to your last post. Thanks!
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When you go to the Web Library page, one of the selections on the left side will read "Revit Instruction and Help Samples." Select this option, and then select "Revit Samples;" you can choose either Imperial or Metric. Under Imperial are files for: railing, repeating details and stairs. Under the metric "tab", in addition to those already listed, you can select from fences, roof forms and roof types. HTH. Jim H
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Ah Ha!! Beautiful. Thank you. For anyone else who is reading this forum and looking for the link, here it is. http://revit.autodesk.com/library/html/
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Thank you guys!
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