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I'm new here.... seems like a great place for information.
We had our CAD rep. come into the office to give us pricing on new ADT 2006 AND he left leaving us confused as to what to buy...ADT 2006 or Revit.
We are a traditional Arch. firm which does 90% of our work in 2-D construction drawings. I have played with Revit a little bit, but have not gotten the hang of it. its seems more difficult to do 2-D work in Revit.
My biggest question is this........is the method of construction documents revolutionizing into a 3-D world in which the drawing files will be 1 file with a 3-D building on it and 2-D flat drawing will be abandoned??? It seems as though this would be logical..... but would be very hard to manipulate lines, line weights, line type and its scale....etc........
If this is the case, where do all the dimensions go.... all the text......?????
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Confused ADT user.....
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Dear confused......
As a Revit user of 2.5 years I can tell you that Revit is the way to go. Your focus on CD's is almost amusing to us Revit users as we are focused on modeling the building and letting the 2D documentation take care of itself.
Revit is a brave new world and I'm sure you will get many other answers on this forum and at www.augi.com.
All I know is my current workload consists of: (1) 200,000 SF shell building with full TI package, (1) 30,000 SF shell building with full TI package, and (2) 30,000 SF TI packages all by my lonesome self and all in Revit.
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Impressive..... I'm still having a hard time with trying to understand how the 2-D drawings will work when it is all in 3-D.
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The drawings are controlled by scalable views, - even though a model has depth, when its viewed from plan (top or bottom), elevations or sections it appears to be 2d because your looking straight on and do not see depth. Plan views are controlled by the level (1rst floor, second floor, etc.) of the view with parameters that controll the depth and height that items will show. Items will show by edge lines that are controllable by lineweight for the most part, item surface patterns can be assigned per view type. Not all items need to be 3d, you can use 2d symbols and model lines placed or drawn to a plane perpendicular to the view you are placing from. Annotations and drafting lines that are added are specific to the view (or view type for section marks etc.) you add them to. You can duplicate views with or without annotations. There are also 2d specific views (drafting views) that are not model related you can create to draw in and import 2d drawings to. The views you want on the cd's are added onto drawing sheets.
Modeling has quite a learning curve, and I recommend starting with a project that will allow for an extended completion time while you learn. Use this and augi's forum to help you through and keep you up on the newest methods
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The ship has set sail to the new world - are you coming or staying on the dock?
Hope this helps a bit!!
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I'm definitely sailing, I'm just still trying to figure out which end of the sail goes where. So I can compare the plan view to that of "paperspace" in which I can add all my text and dim.'s and I only see those dims and text when I am using that view?? Ok I think I understand how it is supposed to work. Now I just have to learn the program. I'm going to start with those online tutorials.
Thanks guys....any more information in understanding is appreciated.
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I have been documenting in Revit for the past 2 and a bit years 
from documenting point of view I find Revit much better in producing a whole document that is correct and relates properly to other drawings.
BUT... there is a but you will need to build your model like it should be built, so when you do look at your floor plan it is correct. it can be fiddely at times but I still think it is so much better than AutoCad and for sure better than ADT. I can't believe that Autodesk is still selling ADT!
all your scales are managed in your view, so text and dimension will adjust themselves. you don't need to worry about it at all!
still more work is expected to be done on Revit to make the elevations and sections look a bit better, Revit tend to produce very flat drawings ATM, you can control line thicknesses, but when you have a complicated elevations, this is not an option (for me)
still LOVE iT!
have fun and welcome...
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hi to cdone and all the others telling you how good revit is,
we switched to revit overnight 6 months ago, from autocad lt. so went from a reasonable 2d program to full-on sophisticated modelling. never used 3d. what a scarey time for me and two staff! but we could see the market had changed, and needed to get back in front.
we thought 3d was just a nice thing to show clients, but it has revolutionised what we can stun them with. automatic and correct 2d views are a huge bonus.
cdone, it will take time to switch, but very positive things come from it. 3d will be a benefit somewhere!
persevere!
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