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So is it part of the learning process that the tutorial instructions are difficult to follow to make sure one gets to learn the interface by offering instructions so that they do not quite describe the Revit interface as it is actually titled/written on the screen of the software?? But then all Autodesk "help" is hard to use I guess I will just have to go & buy a third party book again (same as I did for ADT years ago) arghh
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I would have to agree 101% Pele. The REVIT help system is a joke, getting worse and worse and doesn't include a decent set of tutorials or data set. It's ok once you know the program but not for learning. You may want to invest $89 and use the CADclip video tutorials from here > www.CADclips.com It has worked for 1000's of others.
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I have used Pauls Aubins books before & they were good, would be better if they were in Metric first then with the Imperial dims in brackets (after). Are your cd's in metric specifically, or what??
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Just had a look at your website & it looks like you are Imperial, no good to me in a metric world, thanks for the offer.
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Yikes, good REVIT training does not matter if it's metric or imperial. 1 inch = 25mm. Knowing how levels, grids, roofs, walls, floors and families work. . . . . that is what really matters. Good luck on your persuit for 'metric' only revit training. In my personal opinion you're already off to a shakey start.
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I am sure your products are great but i have tried to use tutorials before in the "old" world system & I have worked in the old world system, in the UK before they changed to metric & I have worked in the US of A. So I do know quite well that 25.4 mil = I inch I have worked in both a lot & let me tell you it is much easier to measure something as say 2565 mil rather than 6' 3 15/16" or whatever the conversion is. They are Imp first but they do have metric dims alongside in bkts. It is too disruptive to be converting all the time in ones head as one is already using ones head trying to learn a new cad system & it is too disruptive to be trying to think in Imperial aswell (you know visualise sizes). I have had this discussion before. The rest of the world is in metric, China has just become the second largest economy in the world, they have just overtaken Japan (both of course metric) & will be very close to the top in 10 years time. Europe is metric, Asia, India, most of Sth America, Mars, Venus etc, you will not have a market in years to come. My motor cycle is both metric & Imp cos a certain big American motorcycle company cannot seem to make up its mind on which way to go, it nuts!!!
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Yea, America has a histroy of standing alone. Given 2.54 cm and they will take a ?. oh well
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Sorry but when it comes to learning how to use a tool the units just doesn't matter. Forget about the units. Where I am in Canada we are stuck right in the middle. We started to go metric because the US had agreed to do the same about 30 years ago. Then the US changed their mind and now we are 1/2 and 1/2 and every project is different so we are experts on converting units and we all know what 0.03937 means. But when it comes to learning a skill it really doesn't matter how high or how long or how wide you make it. You know a door is 900mm wide so just make it 900mm. Floor to floor height is 3m then make it so. The width of the door simply does not matter, AT ALL. Don't sit there with a calculator converting every dimension, round them off to what ever is reasonable to you and move on. Just use the metric template, think metric and make it what ever measurement you want. Get your priorities straight, you are not learning how to design you are learning how to use the REVIT software tools. 'Join roof', 'Cut Geometry', 'Attach Top', 'Trim', 'Extend' do not care about the units. The software is a 'tool' just like a hammer or a saw. If your objective is trying to learn how to use a skill saw or a nail gun does it matter how long the board is or how long the nails are? No way. Forget about units. It does not matter. Seriously, if you are going to let the units aspect impeed your ability to learn I say you have your priorities backwards.
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the tutorials are very lacking, we have 6 arch drafters and 4 have very limited exp and myself and another have alot of exp with revit. so we are bringing the others only as tehy have questions that the tutorials cant answer or leave out. so i guess we are lucky to have two hee that can do that. but i had to teach myself way back when. so i am just paying it forward.
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You are dead right dgcad, but when one is following tutorials it is a hassle working with complex units (Imperial) & typing in fractions. I have been through this with ADT, when one is paying money one might aswell buy the one that suits one the best. I would have gone with your product in a flash exept for that point. Incidently as you are conversant with metric why don't you set out a metric version, the US housing/construction market would appear to be quite slow to moribund at the present. Ours is healthy/booming as is China & a few other Asian countries (I have been offered work there) surely that is where the growth is. Revit must be big there or are they using their own software??
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