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doom2

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Hi again 

rite so im making a 3d model on revit 2011- got the plans of a cad dwg and im just building ontop of the plan. made the partition walls threw in the doors great ! - but when it came to making the external walls things are not  so straight forward its got loads of angled window ingoes, that and the walls are 600mm thick - so i figured the options i have are either create a in place mass and then draw in these weird and wonderful walls or create a component- problem is i cant punch through holes (by using the opening commands) for windows for either of them though so im not to sure if im going down the rite tracks. anybody have any ideas?

 and im sorry if this is getting posted on the wrong forum im not to sure where else to put it .

 thanks  

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Hey -- You're on the right track.  I would build your strange sloped walls as a component... model-in-place -- Make sure it's a generic model type, not in the walls category as would be temping.  Now--form your sweep (the best 3D massing tool IMO)  And then apply your desired normal wall to the face of this generic mass with the "by face" tool  (up there with the draw/pick line tools.) 

Provided the  geometry isn't totally insane, your wall will stick to this model.   You can then punch holes though this wall by either cutting your original Generic model with voids.... or editing the profile of the wall might work as well, though I am not 100% on that one...   Also, I would suggest curtain walls in lieu of windows, applied to this same face in the same manner as the walls.

Don't delete your original generic model.  You walls can adapt to changes you make in it, so it's a big time-saver to override properties by view, and set it to transparent, so as to not obstruct your view, but still be selectable as a wireframe   

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hey

thanks for the reply buddy.

switched the model type to a generic model but why wouldnt i used the wall option what would happen if i used it ?

so drew up the walls but the problem is...well ill show u in these pics

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Hey -- the reason why you wouldn't use a wall category is because you're only using the model as a scaffold, for a real wall type to be applied to. 

I don't understand why the programmers only allow generic models to work--but that's how it works.  

What it looks like your problem is, is the wall thickness, it seems to be about two feet thick??  what I imagine is happening is that it cannot navigate that small oblique corner you have there, with a wall thickness like that.  Try modifying the properties to 2 inches or something, and see if it deals with the geometry a little better.   It seems to be ignoring that small portion of the wall, and joining only the front face to that small setback.  If that's clear...

Since your wall is vertical, and not tipped an an angle, there really's isn't a reason to be using this technique to build you wall, you could just draw it in plan, I think.  It might help you work with the wall joins as you go, and avoid these sorts of conflicts that revit sees..

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