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bdbhoy

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Using RAC 2010

Currently doing a project with 3 phases on existing building.

Attempt to place openings in 2nd and 3rd phase on existing wall and roof (existing in 1st phase) which don't change apart from openings in 2nd/3rd phase.

Despite placing the openings in the 2nd and 3rd phase the 1st phase drawings show the opening.  The 'phasing' parameter is greyed out in instance properties of the opening, and is set at existing.

Any assistance on how openings should be placed in differing phases on an existing wall which does not otherwise change during phasing?

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BDerrick

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bdbhoy

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BDerrick

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so here's what i'm getting:  you have existing window/door/roof openings and you want to add new clear openings.  Right?

 If so, here's what I'd do.  Make sure you have existing and new construction views.  Make sure your window/door/roof openings are set to existing.  For clear openings I like to use generic model families (or some other family category) because it is easier to choose which phase you want (by using the Modify Tab>Openings tool you are forced to have the phase of the host).  Then, add your new clear opening and make sure it's on the new construction phase.  Whether the new clear opening is a generic model family or window it doesn't matter as long as you don't mind an opening appearing in a window schedule. hth

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bdbhoy

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You understood my problem exactly. 

Correct, I hit the dead end also with openings in phases - you can't alter the time they're created within.

Your solution works, but it took me a while to work it out, (creating a new family from the basic window model, ie do nothing but save the template? - Just realised, I assume that means you have to create a separate dummy 'phased opening' for rooflights and floors?)

 Seams as if Revit should modify the programme to allow 'opening' to be altered in phase.

 Thank alot for your help.

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bdbhoy

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The solution to crete 'mock' (Door/window/rooflight) that are phasable is limited to simple rectangles.

Does anyone have a solution to more complex shapes? 

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hanbyjm

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Version 2021 and still the same situation! I have an existing wall we are putting openings in and the phase for the openings still shows as existing phase (grayed out).  I tried making an opening with a new window family and set it to new construction phase.  However it still shows in the wall when view setting is set to new construction show previous. How do I not show the opening in the existing only view?

Found a solution on another site, except I infilled the wall, not floor. Still not the best. Would be better if the phase of opening could be changed.

What I did is:-1 Model the perimeter of the opening in Existing.-2 Fill the opening with the same Floor Type as the existing.-3 Select the filled floor area and demolish it in the new construction phase.-4 Use Linework tool to change the edges to invisible in the existing view.

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QUINNJ

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Why would you do all that? Make a window family blank no frame etc forget openings.. Place it in wall and set the phase to phase2. 

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