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can anyone out there help me? i'm using mep2010 and in there you can add more pipe types, and more electrical wire types. but what i can't find is how to add "duct system types" is it even possible, or am i stuck with "supply, return, exhaust, and other air? thanks in advance.
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When you Create an "Other System", you can choose to call it what you will" Outside Air, Combustion Air, etc. If you create a piece of equipment and you want it to have one of the those duct systems you can choose for the connection to be other and Name it on the bottom of the element properties. It is the same way you create other piping systems.
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thank you for responding, i tried to figure that out. i opened the edit family for my dual duct vav box. and changed all 3 connectors so that the system is other air, and in the identity data at the bottom, i specified the connector discription to be hot, cold, or mixed. then i placed one in the model, went into the filters tab and created a filter for the other air hot, cold and mixed. i made the filter look at the system type first to see that it was on other air, then look to the connector discription to see if it say hot, cold, or mixed. but it still didn't automatically change the duct that is attached to it. if i go into each and every piece of duct in the entire building i could change there connector to be the right one and change the colors that way, but that seems like a waste of alot of time. am i doing this wrong. what is the right way to create a new system.
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This is the correct way, but if you filter all of the systems on other air then Revit will think they are all other air and will not allow them to be different systems, Revit will be confused in a way. What I would do is filter them out by System Name and If you named the Other air Cold Air then in the filter call it Cold Air exact spelling and when you create the system Call it Cold Air, exact spelling again and it should work for you.
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that was how i did this the first time, the only problem that i was having is that i'm limited to 4 systems "Supply Air, Return Air, Exhaust Air, and Other Air. but with this building being so old, they used a hot deck and a cold deck then mixed them and had a mixed air suppling the terminals. so i need 5 different systems really. "Hot Supply Air, Cold Supply Air, Mixed Supply Air, Return Air and Exhaust Air. should i just call all of them Supply Air, and then use an added perameter to manually change each piece as needed. that will just take a long time to do, and have more chances for mistakes.
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It looks as though I was wrong. You can create as many pipe and wire systems as you want, but not air. The only other thing to do is create more than one supply, return, exhaust, or other system and give them different system names in order to filter them out.
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but where do you give them different system names. i can't figure out where to put the informaton to have it filter the whole duct line at once. i have to do each piece instead. there has to be a better way. or maybe i just have to take the time to do every one. i understand that revit doesn't support this because it's only designed for new construction and no one uses hot deck, cold deck anymore.
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When you click on the family there should be a tab in the ribbon that says create system. If you choose the system like the supply air then you should see up in the ribbon a few buttons like Add to system, etc. If you click on the edit system button it will have a System Name just under it calling it something like Mechanical Supply Air 1, you can change the name here and in your filters have it filter by system name. Just make sure the spelling is the same.
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thanks, i was able to use a filter for system name, using Mixed Air and put a hatch patern on that, and just outline in different colors for the others and now you can tell there are 3 different supplies. i appreciate the help.
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just in case anyone else runs into a dual duct system or any other system that you need to show more duct types. i finally found the missing part of the equation. in VG you have to have all the duct buttons turned on, duh. but in the filters if you have the default (Mechanical - Supply) filter turned on then it controls everything that is put in the model as supply duct. but i removed that filter from the filters list, and create new filters for Mechanical - Supply HOT, Mechanical - Supply COLD, and MIXED AIR. they are all using Supply for the System type. then I used the comment line in the parts, and labeled them, COLD DUCT, HOT DUCT, or MIXED. and had the filters look to the comment line for those. as you can see on this drawing i was able to show 5 types of duct. and in the penthouse i even have FRESH AIR INTAKE DUCT. i hope this helps
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Good afternoon,
This thread has been very helpful, im now at this point where i have colour co-ordinated the diffrent systems but im having a issue where the moment you get to where systems link they adopt into one another. For example, Ive got 4 pumpsets linked to 2 flow and returns linking into a header.
How do you stop the systems all adopting into one system the moment you link the header into the pumps?
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if i understand your question, you have one header with 4 pipes joining into it from different systems. in that case, only way that they will not become one system is to have a custom fitting at the connection. you would need to create a piece of pipe that had a connector on each end set up for the systems that it needs to connect to. like when you have a sanitary tee that sends sanitary waste down, and vent line up. i think this is the same situation.
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