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Forums >> Revit Structure >> Technical Support >> Need help: modeling tube to tube intersection w/ in-place families
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I have a decorative eyebrow frame that is mounting to my building that the architect insists we show in our model. It has a 12" round aluminum tube running horizontally along the wall, about 12" off the wall, with a 8"x12" rectangular tube bracket back to the wall. I want to use in-place families, so that in plan I see the full shapes. If I use HSS tubes from the beam menu, in plan I would only see the centerline. I can create all the shapes, but in-place families won't cope to each other (what a PITA!!!). REVIT GODS - YOU NEED TO ADD THIS FUNCTIONALITY! Anyway, I also want to create one in place family with all the parts. But when I create a void form to shape the 8x12 tube to cope around the 12" round tube, it also cuts through the round tube. Is there any way to get a void only to affect one part of the family? Or do I need to make two separate families? Alternatively, I would usee HSS beams if I could show them in fine detail on plan, when the rest of the plan is course. Is there a way to overide the detail level by element? Thanks.
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The sketch I attached is made with HSS beams, with a 1" coping distance. This is how I want my in-place family to look, but with zero coping distance. But I can't get it in one family. It just seems to be I should be able to build-up a complex shape with several extrusions/voids, and be able to define how it fits together.
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If you use the join on the two items, the void will cut both...so don't do that. Then ... try making the void to the side - when finished, slide it into place and then select it and tell it which items to cut.
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You've got the right idea, you just need to adjust the extensions and coping distance. In the screenshot I've posted, i used a 4" extension with a 0" cope. See screenshot. As for the graphics issue...I'll use an hss for the example 1. Edit the HSS family. 2. Save as 'HSS - Eyebrow' or something that pertains to the area you are working in. It's very important that you save this as a new family! 3. Go to a side view in the family (right or left) and delete the geometry for medium-level detail. This will be the hss shape without rounded corners. 4. Select the remaing geometry in the family. In the editing bar, you will see a 'visibility' button (which can also be accessed by right clicking while your hss geometry is selected). Click it. Select all three options for detail level. 5. Still editing the family - go to settings -> family categories and parameters. Select 'from family' for symbolic representation. 6. Load into project. These HSS shapes will not appear in fine detail - regardless of graphics level you have selected. Make sense?
Edited on: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:30:10 PM
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