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Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:16:35 AM | Duplicate with detailing

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Hi guys, I've set up a bunch of "viewports" by just duplicating the model floor plan.  At the time I had envisioned making notes on the resulting duplicated floor plan, but now we are going to make the notes in the model.

Problem is, since I did not duplicate with detailing, the notes made in the model will not show up in the duplicated floor plan.  

Anyone know how I can make this work?  I'm using Revit 2009

 

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Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:04:20 AM | Duplicate with detailing

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How are you making notes in the model????  Notes are 2D - annotations and are view specific. 

 

To have the same notes in multip[le viws, just window the view and filter your selection and paste same place in the dumlicated view(s).


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Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:42:09 AM | Duplicate with detailing

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Yep, you could also use Paste Aligned to get those notes copied into exactly the same position they are displayed in an another view.  Paste Aligned works great for copying objects from floor to floor too.

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Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:37:29 PM | Duplicate with detailing

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Some of our team members are concerned with the situation where changes are made to the model.  We are concerned that the notes (and tags in particular) will have to be changed manually on each duplicated view.

Plus we are using the duplicated view of the overall plan and breaking it up using callouts according to the way the architect has broken things up.  Problem is some of my mechanical rooms appear 5 times because the callouts overlap so much.  

That's why we're considering putting tags and notes on the model, and hoping it will show up in all associated views.

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Joe


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Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:52:49 PM | Duplicate with detailing

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Eek!  Repeating the same notes is a dangerous way to have to go.  Are you familiar with the Reference Callout feature of Revit?  It allows you to create a plan or section callout of a typical area or configuration and then reference that single callout whereever necessary.  That way you only annotate the one typical callout and just point to it from all the other locations/configurations that are similar.  Saves time, make changes in just one place. 


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Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:18:56 PM | Duplicate with detailing

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When I create a reference callout, it does not create a new view.  Instead if I double click the reference callout head, it takes me to the referenced view. 

 

But I thought you meant that the referenced view is where I put the notes and the reference callout will refer to that view.


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Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:27:41 PM | Duplicate with detailing

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What you have described is really confusing.  I just can't understand why you are doing what you are but... here is an option:

  • From one view, create a group that contains all 2D annotations including dimensions and notes with leaders of the information that needs to be on each view the same.
  • Place a copy of that group in each of your remaining views.
  • If you need to change/add or subtract, any item from the group, you can edit the group in any location and all others will change accordingly.
And finally... all tags read their information from the model element.  If you change a property that is tagged in one view, every view that has that element tagged will reflect this change..... The power of REVIT.

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Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:39:58 PM | Duplicate with detailing

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Yep, that's my Revit mantra:  "Change once, change it everywhere!" 

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Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:56:16 PM | Duplicate with detailing

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Awesome.  Group text works.  Tags do not.

 

Tags do not show up via call out.  My job is split up into wings, halls, and core areas which are shown via call out.  The callout does not seem to pick up duct/pipe size tags whether they are placed in the model, or the viewport.

 

Hmm....almost there. 

 

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Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:36:42 PM | Duplicate with detailing

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Now that that project has been issued for construction, I'm spending some time setting up a template, and reflecting on the challenges.  Couldn't have done this without this forum.  Thanks to everyone's input!

 

In continuing this thread on text, I thought maybe I should "duplicate as a dependent", then move the crop regions. The problem with grouping the text was that some 2D annotations such as tags need to be applied in each view on the same object over and over.  That's because tags cannot get grouped.  So my thinking was, maybe I will keep a model plan, and a viewport plan.  Then duplicate the viewport plan as several dependents, each covering a particular zone in the building.  This way, overlapping tags and text are automatically shown on all zones on each floor.

 

Any thoughts on this?

 

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Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:08:19 PM | Duplicate with detailing

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Definately recommend duplicate as dependant.

Current Mechanical project where we have 1 floor over 4 sheets at 1:50 so all detailing is done in the main plan and then shows up into the 4 dependant views each with modified crop regions to suit the sheets.  If additional detail is required for a congested area we then use a callout to further detail that area at possibly 1:20.

Also you really need to move to 2011 it makes life so much easier and quicker.


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