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I work a revit file in my ofice ( my computer have a revit 8.0). Then I went to my home, I have there install Revit 6.1 and the proyect didn't open. Should be a way to set my revit 8.0 at work, then, when I save my work anyone can open in a earlier edition. Please dont say to me that didt happen, because is impossible that I buy the last edition and be worse than before. Please help me.
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This question is asked so many times. Try doing a search before posting...
No revit does not support saving to previous releases and most likely never will. This is because revit would then have to dumb down data in order for it to be compatible with previous version of the program which then results in less advanced features and the factory having to waste time giving support to previous releases of revit.
Revit is bought on a subscription, so unless you are using the software illegally or you have let your subscription lapse (which results in paying the additional fee to resubscribe) there is no reason to not have the latest version, other that the fact that you don't want to upgrade a particular project for fear of loss of work... Which shouldn't be feared. Remember all subsciption customers get support included with there product and should make use of it...
So to go on this rant, but there are only so many times you can answer a question before you snap.
Sorry.
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Well i could think of a reason why you wouldn't update.
The newer the Revit version, the newer de pc you need to have in order to run it smoothly.
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Just to continue with Mr. Spots rant, the PC argument is completely bogus too. In the year 2005 (and beyond) anyone in business needs to plan on new PC technology every 18-24 months. We lease our equipment from Dell and I pay less a day for a working PC per person that the phone costs sitting on the person's desk. ($1.00 a day for PC, $1.50 a day for phone service)
Get ready for 64 bit OS's and new PC's as they are going to be a reality soon.
As for the nuts and bolts of why Revit can't go backward, you have to understand that Revit is a relational database. All databases can only move forward, not back. If you add 10 new tables and establish 10 new primary keys and 20 new secondary keys how do you "undo" that? Revit is not some CAD program with dumb 2D lines.
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So in that case - revit is undeveloped software. If archicad, ADT, Autocad can do it so why revit cann't ? That means that I cannot comunicate with my friends who have older versions of revit ! Very very disapointing. So I will continou using archicad.
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Just a question to add to this enquiry. Can you export to ICF in an old version and import again in an newer version? I can see times that you might have an older version, say you no longer requir the program commercially or perhapa only from time to time, not warraning to continue with the subscription Keep cool Mr Spot :-) there are from time to time repeat questions. Particularly from new users. They have perhaps also not worked out the search feature yet
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Undeveloped software? How much has really changed between all the versions of autocad or ADT? They are all line based and have no true knowledge built into them. Revit has formulas, calculations, and numerous other things that it can do, and has new knoledgable things to it that it is just impossible to revert back to something that doesnt know how to deal with it. As example you have a program that makes a line...the next edditon makes 4 lines forming a box...you can probably revert back to the on that knows how to make a line, and it will just make 4 lines in the shape of a box (AutoCAD). Then you have something that you have a wall with just area that can be calcualted this release...next release they make it so you can find out the volume of the wall. (Revit) How are you supposed to revert back? You are right though, Revit 2008 shoudln't be running on Microsoft Windows 98, but neither should a competative buisness. You cant comunicate with your friends on an older version, but you can go right to autodesks website and get free student versions of the software for free. You may choose to keep working with Archicad, but truth be told, Autodesk is the power house in this industry and will stay that way.
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I'm a little torn. Lately I have been too frustrated with Revit and some things I find that should be included, like ability to save backwards. Some things I have a hard time understanding why they don't allow. No UI control would be my ultimate pet peeve. I've taken a look a ArchiCAD lately and while it's almost scary that they look almost alike now, they have included with their "options bar" a way to customize the UI. And ArchiCAD's ability to export to a whole bunch more options made me almost switch. But there are also negatives which offset this in ArchiCAD also, like when exporting to obj, your z-axis is pointed in a different way than you'd like it to be. I would say Autodesk is more the bully than the powerhouse though. Just like Microsoft. Can't really do anything about it except acknowledge their all mighty power.
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I am an architecture student and assumed that - just like most other architecture software - I could save in earlier versions. So I have been working on Revit 9.1 at home all week and I need to take it into varsity tomorrow which uses Revit 9.0- and basically Im in deep trouble because I just discover now because of that I cant work in class - also I dont have a large printer at home. It's not very student friendly and I think it would be nice to warn people saving back isnt possible.
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Saragoosen, you can overcome your printer issue, by save to printrable filles such as PDF or DWF which you create at home, then bring to uni for printing. How about changing to a laptop?. They are becoming more affordable, even one that can run 'hungry' programs like Revit. I just bought core duo 2 with 2Gb ram for about $US700
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I agree with everything the Pro-Revit camp has to say in here except for one part. Saying that Revit can't save back because it can't strip the newest BIM info out of the model seems like a cop out. I have no desire to save back...helps that I work for a large firm that keeps up with the updates/subscription without my having to see invoices cross my desk...but backward compatibility/exports of software like databases are done all the time. As you add features, you add back-conversion equivalents. It IS a pain for developers. It IS an imperfect system. It IS more trouble than it's worth. But the fact that I can Revit-export to AutoCAD and AutoCAD-explode the crap out of the model and save down and save down and save down to the dumbest of dumbest lines should be a good indicator that smarter things can be made quasi-compatible with dumber things. <Remove ArchiCAD comment here> As I said, I don't miss the back save, don't want the back save. Not having a back-save keeps me from having to deal with version problems with consultants, but I try not to put Revit on a pedestal. People can smell marketing boilerplate hype. Don't scare them away from the Revit Kool-Aid.
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