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Hi, I just downloaded some kohler sinks and inserted them into my drawing. All the contour lines are visible. Is there any way to make the sink appear correctly in my floor plan??? Matt
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You need either what we call a 2-1/2 D family or a 2D family. Where we really want a 3D object for rendering purposes, we will build the family so that the 3D objects are not visible in 2D views and have symbollic lines and masking regions as required. If you don't really need a 3D object, then just use a 2D.
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Thanks for your reply.... It doesn't seem like 2d components are provided by kohler... That doesn't seem to make sense. Rendering is nice and well, but the real information about a project is contained in the technical drawings. Am I missing something? Matt
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To add to WWHub's comment....what I do a lot for manufacturer's with these "dated" 3D elements, I just download their 2D plans and elevations. I then create a family with those blocks inserted in the appropriate views and only showing up in the appropriate views. For example, the plan view of the family would show the 2D plan of a toilet, but the front and side elevations would not be visible. This makes the drawing a little faster too. This, of course only works if you are not doing 3D drawings for presentation. It would probably be better to either make your own toilet, or use the "out of the box" toilet and adjust its parameters such that it contains the manufacturer, model, etc of the unit you want so you can make a plumbing schedule.
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It all depends on what your objectives are. We use a lot of 3D components - even where we don't render. That's because we are finding that we are doing more 3D detailing now that it is easy to do. A 3D view of an accessible tub area showing the locations of grab bars / accessories / controls / seat .
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thanks for the advice, I finally just edited the 3d family's plan view using symbol lines to trace over the 3d model, and then hid the 3d model in plan view... I guess it just seems like that would be a standard practice for creating families. But I am very new to the whole revit thing. I'm trying to use it for residential timber frame design...
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We do the same, but find it is easier on the hardware and our time to accomplish the same thing with 2D views (much like the old AutoCAD multiview blocks). My feeling is if a good 3D family does not exist on something that either A we won't use a lot (we may use a lot of toilets, but they aren't always the same one) or B we are not doing a renderign/3D view of, then our time is best spent designing. I attached a Kohler family I created in such a way. Because it is in an alcove, there is no side elevation, however this of course could be added. While this family took about 10 minutes to make, a 3D version of it could have taken subtstantially longer. And in this case, all the handle bars, etc are preinstalled from the manufacturer so there is no need to instruct a contractor as to its location. A custom shower would be a different situation. The bottom line, is that it is highly dependent on how your firm chooses to work, what you want the end result to be, and what you have the time to do. Good luck!
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thanks for the advice, I finally just edited the 3d family's plan view using symbol lines to trace over the 3d model, and then hid the 3d model in plan view... I guess it just seems like that would be a standard practice for creating families. But I am very new to the whole revit thing. I'm trying to use it for residential timber frame design...
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tydalwaves, You may find that symbollic lines may not be your answer. If you have a floor finish - say tile - the toilet will not hide this finish. You may want to use a masking region instead for the plan view.
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thanks for the advice, I finally just edited the 3d family's plan view using symbol lines to trace over the 3d model, and then hid the 3d model in plan view... I guess it just seems like that would be a standard practice for creating families. But I am very new to the whole revit thing. I'm trying to use it for residential timber frame design...
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tydalwaves, tried sending you a chat invite, but it doesn;t seem to be working. What TF frm do you work for? I worked in the industry for 4 years. It was a blast. We were using Cadwork though because we had hundegger, and it was a seamless software package-and if I remember correctly we were the first US company to have one, so choices were limited. But Cadwork was still a good program.
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Were a small tf company in Maine... mainepostandbeam.com. I'm still trying to work myself into the design position. I'm trying to come up with a good way of bringing together the tf design with architectural design. I'm not sure if I have the best system yet....I model the tf in sketchup or autocad and then link it into revit. Then I can make changes back and forth between the two programs. No hundigger yet, although I am teaching myself deitrichs software. Who did you work with? Matt
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shoot me an email....
Edited on: Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:34:18 AM
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