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Does anyone know if there is a way to get a "RESIDENTIAL" Building Category within the Preliminary Cost Report Function. I only see Commercial, Industrial and Institutional choices and I use REVIT for Home design and remodeling. I tried using some of the Commercial choices like APARTMENT and BANK but the costs were "way off!" Maybe I am the only member using REVIT for Residential. Thanks in advance!
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To the best of my knowledge, no. There appears to be no energy directed toward further integration of Cost Works. Perhaps if enough people who care about this contact Revit support to change the perception of the importance of it...iit might get back on the table??
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I agree with Steve. Though I think it is extremely ironic that for all of the bellyaching over the lack of an API for revit and all of the neat things that 3rd party developers could do if only there were...no one has come up with a slick cost estimating engine using Excel, Access or anything else. Unless, of course, you count the italian tool, which, while appearing awesome, does not come with a translator function, rendering it totally useless to me. Oh, and one of the Revit Factory Workers.
Why doesn't someone step up to the plate and take a swing at this...it does not require an API and would be hugely beneficial to almost everyone here.
Waiting...
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We can all see the tremendous advantage that this could give anyone who came up with a viable solution for using the data available from Revit. The problem is that there are too many variables in the equation. You have to sift through numerous cost estimation numbering systems, the actual programming, and of course every estimator has a different way of getting their values...
Revit is a relatively young program with way too many possibilities. (not that I'm complaining) Give it time and it will catch up with itself. :-)
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I don't see Revit getting LESS complex going forward. This tool HAS been created, as I mentioned, by some Italian Reviteers. It appears very interesting. I would love to see it in English. It is not a matter of finding the exact right way for it work for everyone.
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Someone may have created a solution for their needs, but cost estimators work in different ways. They all have their own systems for coming up with their numbers.
I have actually seen a cost estimating system in Excel that Ken Stowe at Autodesk came up with that relies on, not Assembly Codes, not Means Cost codes, not CSI, but the description of objects as the pivot point to marry costs to exported Revit data. I believe he used these descriptions and not the codes for 2 reasons. First, the cost estimating system he developed was for marketing purposes and he didn't want to get into "arguments" over which system he used. Secondly, it is much easier and faster to update costs for something that you can look at and know immediately what it refers to.
I'm not saying that it can't be done or that it hasn't been done already. I'm just giving an explanation as to why we haven't really seen it yet. It's hard! :-)
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Hey Guys, I didn't want to open a can of worms, just looking for a solution for some "quick" costs using the data already collected within the model. It sounds like the general concensus is that this animal doesn't exist yet. (at least in English!)
... Sounds like a marketing opportunity for some good programmers!
Let me know if any of you hear of a product popping-up in the future!
Thanks Again,
I enjoy and welcome all of the input!
-Dave Zoller
Grand Rapids, Michigan
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It's quite alright, we enjoy a good healthy discussion :D
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