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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:19:47 AM | Walls won't join.

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I have two basic interior walls that will not join.  When you highlight them they display as being joined, but they clearly aren't.  Outside of disallowing the join and pushing them together, what could the issue be?  Someone please help.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:24:21 AM | Walls won't join.

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Can you post a screenshot of your problem.  If they show as joined, what do you mean by they clearly aren't?

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:32:15 AM | Walls won't join.

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Here's the image.  When I highlight the walls the "grips" show them as being attached.  When I stretch the walls passed the corner they join correctly, but when I trim them they appear as in the image.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:36:23 AM | Walls won't join.

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Try and pull the walls apart by stretching the pull points away from the join on both walls and then pull each one back to the centreline of the wall that you want to join to. 

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:42:44 AM | Walls won't join.

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Sometimes you can pull each wall back and re-trim them.  Did you cycle through your edit wall joins options.  That tool is on the bar above the options bar - about 5 tools to the right of the Offset tool.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:48:43 AM | Walls won't join.

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I tried stretching the pull points away and then back.  It still reverts to the image  The weird thing is when I stretch the pull points to make the walls at a non 90 degree angle they join correctly.  I tried to re-trim.  I also tried to cycle through the join options.  None of it worked.  By the way I really appreciate all the suggestions.  Even if I can't get this work you guys are great.  Thanks.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:09:28 AM | Walls won't join.

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You have to pull both of the walls (together) back enough that that they unjoin.  Pull the wall with the door back to the middle of the door.  You can still pick it by the remaining portion on the other side of the door.

 

BTW - do these walls have different base points or do either of them  have a profile that is edited?


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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:14:23 AM | Walls won't join.

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Copy the walls with the door to a point outside the building to check if you have the same problem.  Something may be interfering with them.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:16:11 AM | Walls won't join.

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I tried that and it still did'nt work.  It's really frustrating.  It's not just these two walls either.  attached is another instance for two other walls.  I am also getting the error "highlighted walls overlap" when I re-draw these walls.  Also they have the same base point and the same profile.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:20:05 AM | Walls won't join.

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When I copy them outside the building they attach fine (see image).  When I copy them to other parts of the building they attach fine.  It seems to be this one area.  I agree something is interferin, I just can't figure out what it could be.  This is the first level of a two story building and the second story reacts the same way on this same side of the building.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:30:44 AM | Walls won't join.

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In view properties switch on the floor below to see what is happening.  There may be something below that was previously attached but has become unattached.  Check the floor above also.  Have you unhidden everything in the view?

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:56:49 AM | Walls won't join.

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I believe the warning ... error massage about overlapping walls is your answer.  Possibly our wall join is being controlled by another junction of one of these walls.  Maybe something above or below your view range ... hence the error.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:19:31 AM | Walls won't join.

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I also believe this to be correct the only issue is when I delete all the walls above this they still don't clean up.  If I delete every wall around them and redraw these walls they still don't join. When I copy these same walls to another area they clean up fine, but when I move this copy back to the original location they revert to not joining.  My only recourse is to copy the entire first and second floor to the side and delete the original.  This is a little risky and I'll have to move my elevation markers and levels, but at this point I don't see what else I could do.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:23:06 AM | Walls won't join.

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Draw a section showing the problem area.  You might see what is causing the problem.

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Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:25:43 AM | Walls won't join.

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There is no reson for this other than something else being there.

 

Did you check for hidden in view elements?

 

Are you using phases?  Worksets?

 

Is there a plan region in this area?

 

If they do cleaup elsewhere, what happens when you move them back together .... already joined?


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