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We are adding all of our wall types to our template file. The question I have is if anyone developed a convention for labeling the type mark of the wall. We were hoping CSI would have a standard for this but, I can't seem to find one. We were thinking of something like 3.4a - First Number Being Type(1=Concrete, 2=CMU, 3=Metal Stud,....); Second Number being nominal core thickness; and the letter for different versions(a=acoustical, u=UL, s=shaft.....) We are open for any suggestions. Thank you for your time.
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I wish I could tell you that CSI/NCS had some sort of number convention, but they do not. They simply state that it needs to be numbered. What you are suggesting seems like a logical numbering convention. If you are trying to devise a naming convention that relates back to you specifications though, concrete should be 3 to relate back to the 03 division o the specifications, CMU 4 Metal stud 5 or 9 and Wood 6.
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I can't beleive this is the first I've heard of this, but man tyhis is important. We do this nilly willy and differnet every time. Check with NBIM Standards Website to see if they cover the issue. If not, perhaps oyu should get involved and make it happen. They are very receptive to user input and collaboartion. Think of it as WikiRevit
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I've read the NBIM standard and it has stil in it's infancy as a standard goes, and does not get into this type of detail. That doesn't mean don't get involed and read it, but this is a perfect opertunity or mean to do just that get involved with NBIMS and help establish this wall standard. Am=nother outlet is the NCS, they have a task form that is especially looking at how to work with the NBIMS.
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Yah, naming conventions are a tough thing, they can get really messy. There are an infinate number of wall types with different construction, and our wall type #'s change per project depending on what walls we use. So we came up with a naming convention where we represent a wall type based on abreviations. I'll give you an example: Say you have an interior non-rated, non-bearing metal stud partition, with 3 5/8" c-studs and 5/8" gyp. board both sides, in our convention that wall would be named " () Interior - 4 7/8" NR NB 58G358C58G" Inside the () we would put the project specific wall type number. If the wall has an STC rating, we will also add that to the end of the name. This way we know the complete composition of the wall just by reading it in the list. Does anyone else do anything similar to this?
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We do use a pretty intensive naming convention for our walls; but I would like to have some sort of office wide or profession wide convention for wall type numbering so we don't have to go back and change the type number for each project. It would keep things simple and help prevent mistakes.
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Think about it though, is there any real feasible way to make a standard type number that could be used on all projects throughout the industry? Just think about how many different wall assemblies there are! And we are constantly adding new ones as different products are developed. There is literally an infinate amount of different configurations: stud size, stud type, stud material, finish thickness, finish material...isulation, furring, stc gizmos, blah blah blah...all different assemblies for structural, fire, and sound rating concerns. Look at how many wall types are in UL, and they are constantly testing new wall assemblies. So I don't think there is a way to make a standard type number that could be used on every project universally across the board. There are so many codes that dictate what type of wall has to go where, but there are also soooo many different ways to achieve those types. It would be nice though if they could come up with a standard way of naming the walls to identify the make up of the wall inside the name. I like our naming convention but I'm always open to something better.
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