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Forums >> Revit Building >> Technical Support >> What's up with the tezt "size"?????
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Go into a 3" = 1'-0" drafting view and type in some "3/32" text. Then size a line that is 3/32" high next to the text. What in the world is the problem????? The text is 4-5 times a high as the REAL 3/32" line. I looked through the settings, and could not find any text options that were scale-specific. Help was, once again, not helpful at all. I did happen to find something in the help section that said that text automatically resizes, so what is the problem here? This text is definately not 3/32" in this scale view.
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"scaling" things in cad is even worse. There have been times when tags and dimensions are needed to change scale and they will not, and times when they do when you don't want them to. Or perhaps I am just getting it wrong. 3/32" text should be 3/32" of one inch, no matter what scale the drawing is. And if it's going to print at 3/32" then why is it so big on the screen that I can't see what I'm sketching??? Hey, no. At a scale of 3" = 1'0" the 3/32" text actually prints at 1-3/4" and the 3/32" line prints at 1/2". So much for plotting " at a scale 3"=1'-0" [4 times smaller] " and having it (the text) come "out to the correct height of 3/32". This is totally rediculous. I need to do a sketch at 3" = 1'0". So do I have to make a text scaled to 57/128"???? in order for it to show up properly? Now I can see why an instructor made us do pencil drafting. On paper, no matter what the "scale" of the line drawing, 3/32" text is still 3/32" text. Period. Maybe revit fixed this nonsense in 2009???
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You must not be a autocad user?
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Well, than this is quite unfortunate. I don't, and I can't think of anyone who would need 1/2" text on a drawing when it's goign to obscure and simply disproportionally overpower the drawing. Like I said, 3/32" text should be 3/32" text, period. Who's the genius in Waltham who came up with this idea???
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And here is another one. 3/32" text in a 3/32" = 1'-0" drafting view is actually 1'0" high. 3'/32" - 3/32" is one to one, isn't it???
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When you say 3/32" you are talking about the size on a printed sheet. In order to get that size you would have to apply a scale factor when you are looking at the view. Keep in mind that the view is set to a scale and the sheet is 1:1, so therefore if you had to manually draw something that you wanted to be a scale of 3"=1'-0" you would have to draw every thing 1/4" the size that it is in real life. Sorry that you don't understand basic principles of drafting.
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This may be purely logical, but it's not in any ways practical.
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I understand basic drafting principles. As you said "therefore if you had to manually draw something that you wanted to be a scale of 3"=1'-0" you would have to draw every thing 1/4" the size that it is in real life" but you don't seem to understand, it's the TEXT!!!!! that is the problem. Revit doesn't seem to understand that whatever the scale of the drawing, text should remain the same. You're not going to draft (with a pencil) a detail that is 3" = 1'0" scale and then scribble text that is 3/32" *4 on the detail. This is what revit is doing. Did I forget to mention that this is a drafting view?
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poplivon ... it does sound like you are an old acad user. You have to change your thought process. Text in REVIT is an annotation and all annotations are paper space size NOT VIEW! This is really a great thing. You newer have to figure your text size. Our office standard is that our printed text is 3/32" minimum so that it is always readable. If we set our text to 3/32 it will always be 3/32 - no matter what scale the drawing is. You never have to figure out how large or small to make your text in order to meet our office standard. Now if you want model text .... that will scale with the drawing.
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Im in a drafting view. Using drafting text. Not model lines, not model text.
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I don't how much of a great thing it is when you're sketching and cannot see the sketch because of the TEXT size. And no, I don't want model text. I want pure text. Can Waltham come up with that? Pure text? Text that doesn't scale with the drawing?
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I don't know why you would ever want a true 3/32" high scaled text in a 3" drafting view but it's your wish... if that's what you want, uou have to think backwards from what you did in CAD. If you want 3/32" text in a 3" view then you make it 3/128" text .... of course you will NEVER be able to read 3/128" text when it's printed. But then again .... its your drawing!
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I DON'T WANT 3/32" TEXT SCALED AT ALL. I WANT 3/32" TEXT SHOWN AS 3/32" TEXT. AND NOT HAVE TO SET A TEXT SIZE TO 3/128"IN ORDER FOR IT TO PRINT AT 3/32". I thought I mentioned this (TEXT SIZE, not scaled) above? I did. Yes it will indeed print. I just did it and printed it and it is legible. With revit's help, it's printing (setup - center - zoom) at 3/32" like it's supposed to, with the text set to 3/128".
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Maybe this will help. I created a drafting view at 3"=1'-0" scale and placed a 3/32" text note on the the view. I then dimensioned the height of the note. Next I placed that view on a sheet and placed another dimension on the sheet view. Notice the difference in the dimensions. Check out the attached image.
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