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We are setting up our office standards and are having heated debates over how we should set up our line weights and line styles. Right now we have our lines set up to include 7 lines that correspond to the typical pens PEN 13 PEN 25 ect. These lines are LINE 01 - LINE 07, and the line wt chart uses actual pen weights, 0.0020", 0.0050", 0.0070" ect. and those exact values are used at all scales but still adjust so wt 6 reads heavier in 1/4"=1' than 1/16"=1'. The biggest problem with this system is that we have repeat line weights (ie: wt 6-8 all equal 0.0140" at 1"=1' but the are different at 1/4"=1') i'll attach a screen shot so that this will make sense. Mainly i just want to get some input on what other firms have done to modify their line weights; and if anyone has preserved the line weights, as they are "out of the box", how do your drawings look and have you had any problems with drawing legibility. Thank you for any insight you may provide.
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we chose to go with 7 pens, since if you were drawing on a board, you'd still use these 7 pens for any scale drawing, we just used these same weights for all scales and annotations. I then created _PEN1, _PEN2, etc. linetypes. The nice thing about this setup, is that using it in familes too, you only need create in object styles the pens that you need (i.e.- _PEN1, _PEN3, _PEN4). Within the project, the object styles are set to their penweights, and everything works out fine. The remaining fields of our table are used to approximate CAD lineweights allowing us to import our CAD drawings fairly close to how they used to read. Also, we have a color scheme for our penweights, so that when you see a red line, you know it is a _PEN7. This allows us to work in thin lines mode a lot, which allows us to see those little tiny errors that like to build up in Revit (walls not quite touching, things that should be at a certain point are close, but not quite, etc.)
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So you set the first 7 lines to be your typical drafting pens. Did you adjust the lines for the scale of the drawing, ie: weight 6 is the same at 1/4"=1' as it is at 1"=1'?
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We left the lineweight translation table alone and have found that it works pretty good. Because of the translation table (REVIT vs AutoCAD), we think the pen number names is no longer valid so we have stayed with the REVIT naming along the convention of thin, medium, heavy and a very few others. It might be appropriate to think and name in terms of edge of the object, internal object lines etc but we have not done that.
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we left it so that a 6 is a 6 in all scales. This works well so far in details etc. I agree with wwhub though, we are forcing a non-revit structure on revit. But we did this per our boss, who wanted to mimic the good old days of drawing on a board, when you only had 7 pens. So we converted the lineweights of those 7 pens (from an actual set) and created our table based on those pens (when you print a test sheet, and then you use those pens to extend the lines, you can barely tell where the plotter ends and the pen begins. We changed our entire table to be these lineweights, even annotations. We found that the biggest challenge with Revit was that it does cartoon lines, so you can't get too big of a line, or it gives you a rounded edge.
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I would like to thank both of you for giving me some insight to make a better decission for our office. Just to let you know, we decided dedicate the fist 7 lines to be the traditional pen thicknesses and the rest of the lines will be used to match cad imports, with the last 3 lines being dedicated to "PHAT" lines for things like elevation bases and ect. One thing we did do that is a little different was to set only 2 scales, so that anything at 1/8" or larger will use the pens at their actual weight, and anything 1/16" or smaller will use the pens at a reduced size. We decided in our office that the way a line reads at 1/8" would not be very different at 1/4" and also that we would prefer lighter lines in detail views so that more information is visible and not covered up by thick lines. I appriciate all the ideas that were expressed in this thread, i don't think there is any one way to set lineweights to make everyone happy, but hopefuly this will be a good start for the next person looking to make changes.
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