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Hello there, Awhile back I found a post on using the linework tool to make your roof outline above show in the plan below. Well I am trying to do that and ever since I began to do this, it is VERY VERY screwy. It works half the time. Sometimes it'll show correctly, then later it'll get messed up. Other times I raise the views cut plane and use the linework tool. Then I lower the view range and it doesn't show. Why is this? It is half and half and most the time it doesn't work. We find ourselves using drafting lines to resemble roof lines above, ceilings above etc etc. We want these lines to be moving with the things above it. How can we accomplish this? Thanks,
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Maybe you can lock the "drawn-in lines" to the roof so that they will adjust with changes you make to the roof? Also, if you need the roof plan to be visible in the floor plan view you can set the view to have the roof plan as an underlaying layer... Does this help?
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Easiest way is to raise your view range to include the roof, pick and lock detail lines to the elements (roofs) that you want to be visible, and then return the view range to normal. These lines will move with the roof, but since they are detail lines, you need to repeat this procedure for every view you want them shown in (I do not believe that pasting aligned keeps the constraints, so even though that would be faster to get the lines in your views, they won't necessarily keep with the roof, but I recommend testing this out in a test project real quick, because if the constraints are kept, then once you've done one view, you can copy paste aligned the "Overhead" lines into all the views you want them in. Hope this helps.
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I have had good succes with a similar method. Instead of switching my cut plane I use the Underlay function and set the underlay level to a level above. This results in objects above the cut plane showing in gray scale. I then use the linework tool to indicate my overhead line. Finally I turn the underlay off and the linework lines remain on the plan. When I select one of the lines it gives me the selection for the object it was made from. I am not sure if this will work to show the roof edges but it's worth a try.
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Hey thanks for the suggestions, I tried to set my roof plan to be an underlay in my plan and I cannot see the roof?? I can't see any underlay actually?? I also tried to set my Reflected Ceiling Plan and some lines in the plan show up and some don't. The ceiling heights and furr-downs show up, but the roof does not. When I go to the roof plan or the RCP the roof shows up. But not when either one is an underlay. I checked to make sure roofs was turned on in my plan, yes they are. Why can't I see the underlay?? Thanks, Lorne
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Never use the underlay, but I'd guess because it doesn't pick a view, but a level, since there aren't options to control the underlayed view, so it probably takes them from your view. Perhaps see if your view depth effects the underlay. Aside from this, if this isn't the solution, then it sounds like something is messed up with Revit. I'd try reinstalling the application maybe... but not 100% sure where to go if this doesn't work.
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Well unfortunately I set my view depth in both my plan view and my RCP to unlimited depth. Still nothing. The roof shows in RCP but not when this is an underlay. Also I have had this problem since I started using Revit, and I've reinstalled a few times since then. So I don't think that will do it. Does anyone know what is going on? Thanks
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Hi Lorne, I agree that the underlay function is somewhat a mystery. It does underlay a level and not a specific view, so changing view depth/range settings does not effect it. That said I generally can get one of the underlay options to give me what I want... Sometimes you'll need to underlay and switch your view to wireframe temporarily to see the bit you want or switch the underlay to a RCP instead of a plan. Once you see what you want and use the linework tool on the edge you can restore the settings to what you originally had. I have had some instances where despite my best efforts the linework tool still misbehaved, this was usually on someone elses project though, I haven't had it happen on one of my projects. In these cases detailing is really the only solution. Let us know how you go... HTH.
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Hey James, I tried your method and it really worked! I used underlayment and linework.... Thanks a lot!
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