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We have what seems to be a monkey wrench in our workset plans. We have a central file all nicely set up, worksets divided by who will be using what area of the building, workers in the office with full access to the same server that has the central, so STC works fine here. We also have a satellite office that cannot open directly from the server. She has to pull a copy off of the server (basically a download) and then upload her work when she's done. This has to do with certain firewalls/security features that are built into our networking system. Our IT guy can fix it so that she's a virtual user on the network (ie the network will think she's actually in the office), but we can't afford that fix right now. SO, is there anyway to still use worksets without the ability to save to central? Should she be the owner of certain worksets? Upload her work and have someone here STC for her? We're not sure of the best way to proceed right now. Fixing the problem is definately on the horizon, but not soon enough for one particular project. A short term (probably just a few months) workaround is what I'm looking for. Any help/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
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Use your H E L P !!! REVIT's help is ver useful if people would simply look there. Here is your answer straight from that. Team members can work on the project off-site: - Make the needed worksets editable while still at the office and on the network. Be sure to save the local file before closing it; otherwise, these changes to workset editability are not saved in the local file when you take it off-line.
- Work on the project off-site as you would in the office. You can modify elements in editable worksets, and you can create new elements in any workset.
To modify elements in a workset you have not checked out, you can specify the status of the workset as Editable. This is known as Editable at Risk and should be avoided whenever possible. If another user saves changes to any of the same elements that you have changed, you cannot save any of your changes to the central file; all your changes in all worksets are lost. You may be able to recover some of the changes by copying the changed elements and pasting them into a new local file. If you make a workset Editable at Risk, it is recommended that you have a colleague who is in the office with access to the central file start a session of Revit Architecture and use the Options command to specify your name as the User Name. See Options. The colleague should then open the central file, check out all the worksets that you have at risk, close the file, and reset the User Name to his name. It is not necessary to save the central file. This prevents other users from making the workset Editable and changing the same elements. If someone else has checked out that workset or borrowed elements in it, there is no way to assure that there will not be a conflict.
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WWHub, That would be a great help, if she was ever in the office. This is not a matter of someone working from home a couple of days a week. Our satellite office is a 7 hour drive away. This particular help menu solution will only work if she is able to save while in the office. Since she is never in the office, this is not a solution for us. And please do not assume that I did not scour the help menu for over an hour before posting here. I value the time and the answers of the revitcity community too much to post a question that I could have easily found the answer for elsewhere. Are you suggesting that someone here in the office makes a new local file for her that she can download? That would be a helpful solution if it would work. Would she then be the owner of these editable worksets?
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What I gave you is the process you need to follow. For your file transfer, that is up to you. Sneaker net ... FTP ... email. I would not use virtual because that can be terribly slow with the quantity of information we have. Your IT guy should be able to set up an FTP site that will protect your system.
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" Are you suggesting that someone here in the office makes a new local file for her that she can download? That would be a helpful solution if it would work. Would she then be the owner of these editable worksets? " i think that what's they are saying in the help info that WWhub posted. you have a user login under that user name and create local file and check out all needed worksets. Email file to person. That user using the same user name, they open the file in revit and work on it. in the mean time no one else can modify those worksets so they won't be at-risk. they email it back to you. you have someone login again using the same user name and open the file and save to central. i would set up a small trail test first, but it should work.
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OH! Looks like I need to smack my forehead and let the little lightbulb flicker on. Now I get it. Thanks for the plain english version. So to keep it from being at risk, I need to change the owner name here in the office, save a local copy for her, send it to her, and then when she updates it and sends it back, I'll need to open it and do a STC here. So sorry it took me so long to get it. Thanks y'all, for all the help.
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Another option that we are exploring is using remote desktop sessions to access files from a a remote office. We install the seat of Revit on a laptop at the main office (Revit allows you to install a seat of Revit twice as long as they are used part time and not used at the same time). Then a user can use a remote desktop session to access the laptop and the network at the main office via their computer at the remote office.
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Hi, i read your tread about remote servers in Revit. We have bulid a Revit server on the internet were we put our centralfile. Then you and your teammembers can workdirectly to this from any were in the world. No ftp and no filesendings.. Interested? Mail me at daniel@monsenarkitektur.se Best regards Daniel Monsen
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I assume your save to central and reload latest, etc speeds are limited to the internet speed. How is the performance of your model over the internet? Thats why decided to use the remote desktop solution for now, because your model and Revit seat are in the same network and you are only broadcasting screen images and user inputs and controls across the internet, we find we have no software/model performace loss.
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Well, we have put our servrer at a ISP provder hall, whith speeds from to 10mbit.-100mbit at max. This gives us a realy smooth working enviromet and it very easy to work with other architects out of the office or othe revit disiplines like MEP and S. The centalfile is on the net at the dedicated ip number, and everybody has local copies on c:, But of course it like you say the office own internet speed is usally the problem and it can never go faster that that allows. I think we have a new standard here, that we may start to offer clients, but i like to find user that would like to try and give feedback first. /Daniel Monsén
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There is also the possibility of a new App called "dropbox" (www.getdropbox.com) might work. Basically it is a super clean, super easy piece of software that syncronises files from multiple computers. (A bit like your Blackberry or iPhone does). I havent tried it, but assume that if you save your central file in the 'dropbox' shared folder, it will then allow any user to pull local files off whenever they like and then backup and reliquish elements as needed. As I say I havent tried this with Revit workset enabled files, but for every other kind of file it works like a treat. So even if it doesnt work for workset files , its a great tool for remote offices, personnel, etc. If someone sets this up, I'd be very interested to know how it works out.
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