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A lack of knowledge will frustrate anyone and when you throw in a refusal to let go of AutoCAD you find an extremely high failure rate.  The problem in these situations is not Revit.  Revit is a proven program that is gaining much popularity.  There are countless books, training videos, and websites out there for users to learn the program.  I took a Revit class and didn't find it very helpful.  THe most help came from my own searches of tutorials and trial and error.

"Throw in many years of dealing with the Autocads and Architectural Desktop, I can see why many firms, especially small companies are migrating to other software."

I feel sorry for those companies. Revit surpasses AutoCAD on all accounts.

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jlevyarchitecture,

This will be helpful, Thanks!

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I don't care which program is "the best". I want an effective program that gets the job done without it becoming a second career. I need to learn how to use the program and move on to more important things.

Funny thing, reading posts here it seems that most people use Revit and Autocad together. The manufacturer offers them as a suite of complimentary software. Not so much reality present in the idea of "letting Autocad go". 

It's not so much the lack of knowledge that holds beginners back with this program, in my opinion, as the fact that getting information when one needs it in a way that is accurate and efficient is difficult. In addition, the context-sensitive GUI maks it difficult for beginners to form an understanding of hoe program works and how it is organized. With an investment of several thousand dollars, a full workload and a few thousand (or at least several hundred) more dollars for education and training, taking time to surf the net for information is inefficient and time consuming not to mention frustrating, as the answers available are often far more complex or drawn out than necessary.

To the manufacturere's credit, they have tried to address this problem with online user guides.

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Not many people use revit and autocad together. 

Just because Autodesk bundles in software doesn't mean that we want it. There's all sorts of crap in our "autodesk revit design suite premium" subscriptions which I see as nothing more than bloatware to justify cost increases.

Sure, Autocad is still an important program.  We have two decades of autocad drawings.  We need autocad.  But we don't use it anymore in an active design sense, and we like to keep autocad drawings, lines, and hatches OUT of our revit projects.

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Exactly, why am I paying for 5 versions of AutoCAD and 2 other ancillary programs in a $6780 design suite when I can STILL OPEN CAD IN REVIT???

Autodesk needs to come out with an al a carte Suite.

Revit, 3dsMax, Navisworks.   BIM Suite $4300.  If you need CAD, import it into Revit, export it as CAD again.

As for learning Revit, its terribly easy to learn, if you try.  Goodbye to person who hates Revit....goodbye.

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Thank you for posting on a thread almost a year old.  We understand people get frustrated with the program but that is a knowledge problem and a lot of people are not willing to accept change and take on the learning curve that comes with Revit and frustration turns into knocking the program without knowing its capabilities.  We are here to help people who have questions and want to learn, not explain why Revit is a great program.  Everone was a beginner when they started obviously.  This post started with someone wanting to dimension to NOTHING and cant believe why he can't.. well Revit doesn't do that, why? because you don't dimension to nothing in the real world.  It is nothing to get mad or dislike revit about its just how it is. 

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Lolz. this thread needs a reddit style up and down vote option. :-) (plus rezzing this post is too funny) it shouldnt have died earlier. I wanted to know if he got the burger material to render properly. 

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I think he did and he uploaded the family:

http://www.revitcity.com/downloads.php?action=search&keywords=hamburger&user_name=&sort=score

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beautiful ^^  =)

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WhyTF would anyone defend anything Autodesk puts out?  I mean I know these were good tools on their way to being amazing before Autodesk buys them out but after that, WHY would anyone defend Autodesk?  Revit City HAD to be made because even the most INDUSTRY SPECIFIC families don't even work as expected.  This IS industry specific software, is it not?  There is a list of 1000's of things we could submit that need to be fixed and they NEVER fix any of it.  Does anyone really need a free copy of Raster Design?  Do we really need to install the Express Tools in CAD seperately anymore?  Oh and for some reason nothing is backward compatible, yeah I guess that makes sence.  Just because YOU know have learned alot of features and YOU got some of the right training (because until recently a certified Revit class did not exist becuase even industry leaders struggled to wrap their heads around it) doesn't mean there aren't still people struggling out there.  Autodesk does not support their software, customer inquiries or customer satitsfaction in any real way (they have a phone number but it's just halfwitts looking up the help menu).  They put up a nice front and find lots of excuses but yes, the User Experience does mean something.  It shouldn't take the level of knowlege to do what needs to be done in a program like Revit, especially when they can't even get can lights or renaming schedule items correct.  They're a greedy umberella corp who forces everyone else out of business which would be fine (becuase it's America and I know that's the game) except that they really don't give a hoot about their products or customers so it's all just recycled uncorrected horse poop every "new" version.  Stop defending autodesk and just provide an answer if you have one for whatever us dumb sorry newbs need some help with.  We don't need people here at Revit City beating around the bush.  We already get enough of that from Autodesk.  And for god sakes... try something out to make sure that what you are describing as a solution to something actually works before adimittly passing on knowlege like your Carl Jesus Christ Sagan.

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There is nothing inaccurate about what I said.

There's a whole community of people that seem to agree with me.  hence this thread)

You don't have the aptitude to uderstand perspective becuase you're a robot that only understands codes, scripting and obviously has why too much time on your hands to do any real architectural work.

Unfortunatlely our company bought into the Autodesk sales pitch so I have to use the software for the time being.

You mis-qouted me saying, "it's the best of the lot".  I would never say this.  There is other software out there.

You've done absolutly nothing to help anyone.  You just bully people for being less knowlegable than you.  Which must mean that that's the only reason why you're on here in the first place; because the point of a forum is to help others or ask for help from others.  Sinse you do niether, your only reason for membership here must be for your ego.  I get that though.  Pushing Revit all day and finding workarounds in it instead of tackling real world problems isn't much of a life to begin with so I guess I would need to push others around to if I were in your shoes to.

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 . . . and wrong again but not surprised. Note the date I joined here and take a minute and review all the valuable posts, tips, tricks, solutions, links, videos and genuine support I've been doing for '10 years' bozo. 10 years.

I say YOU are clearly trying to bully us and this web site. We all want you to go away. Just go away. But you won't, no no no becasue you'll come here for answers and solutions then back hand everyone and comment on how the software sucks. That makes you . . . . .wait for it. . . . a selfish idiot who missed a few valuable life lessons.

I double dog dare you to go to www.AUGI.com and start a thread title 'I Hate REVIT' because it's a crappy software. DO IT ! DO IT ! DO IT ! come on, I dare you. Coward ?? Send me the thread link URL and I'll eTransfer you $$

I have been known to get a little cheeky after trying to help people and they keep going down the same wrong road. But thosee times are rare and I don't get rude.

You need to get some manours to start with as you are rude and ignorant in both knowledge and behaviour. We don't appreciate it or need that here. 

You are nuisance. Just go away. By taking the time to stir up negativity here and put down an extremely cool, very effective multi disciplined BIM software is just your personal self serving joy which casts some light on your overall personality quite frankly.

I am the BIM Leader in a global multi disciplined corporation with 1000's of REVIT users at every corner of this globe so beleive me when I tell you it's an awesome piece of software and it most definitely works (if you have the aptitude to learn it) because if it didn't I'd say so. The moment a better application comes up that does what REVIT does at the same capcity with it's own proprietary SERVER software and hardware and web based project sharing tools I'll jump ship. I'm open for suggestions. I just started checking out Vertex. I check them all out.

What REALY puzzles me is this: Do you use (or plan to use) REVIT to make a living ? If the answer is Yes then grow up and stop being a nuisance, you need to get your priorities in order and get off the negativity train. If the answer is No then just go away. You are a nuisance to those of us here for positive constructive reasons.

I am a REVIT Instructor and have been a CAD instructor for 28 years. Calling me a bully is rediculous and really puts a label on your intelligence. I honestly believe that you simply aren't smart enough to work with this software but your overbaring brain just isn't willing to conceit so instead of giving up you are pushing back. Makes sense to me.

I was probably producing and distributing AutoCAD videos on VHS tape before you where born.

I come here to:

a) learn

b) get answers

c) contribute and help people

c) have fun

d) market my very inexpensive but etremely detailed REVIT training videos

e) see whats new

f) look at the gallery

g) watch the job list

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i) download families

j) upload families

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