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Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:43:01 PM | Typhoon

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Quoting Typhoon from 2009-06-22 16:10:52

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So what?? you also post this"Do you realize how asinine some of the things you're saying are? How does the whole "It's working in my environment, so everything's fine with the software" argument going? People here are looking for help, so get yourself together, or don't bother posting."

and this: "Oh my gosh, you're right! I guess it doesn't make sense that Revit 2009 had 3 service packs then does it? Because of course if it was broken, they would have never let it leave the factory.Pff, sorry, I don't think so. Sorry RevitCity forums."

To a newbie here, you are a "little arrogant"....

Ohh, you "Edit" (change) your post 3 times, wow, "And, when did I say I had a problem with RevitCity? I said Sorry RevitCity, because I was apologizing for what I had to type in its forums. I clearly don't remember defaming RevitCity, or at least that wasn't my intention. In any case, sorry for the ruckus. Just because Revit works well for one person, or most people, doesn't mean it will work perfectly for everybody right out of the box. That's the point of the forums, that's the role they serve. If the software was perfect, there wouldn't be a need for a support forum, and RevitCity wouldn't be here. Gosh, I keep you guys on my facebook page. Sorry for the misunderstanding." - This is NEW, well, apologies accepted from me, I do not know of Alabaster...

Edited on: Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:25:42 PM"

Well, I'll apologize too, maybe I jumped a little off the handle (interesting as it was). Sorry to any users who weren't entertained by our exchanges, please go back a few posts to the support ideas, or read on from here.

Oh and the edits, well, Word didn't copy well to the thread in that instance, so there would have only really been one edit. $orry. L8r folkz.


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Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:23:55 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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I am having similar problems on several machines that range from 32-bit single core CAD stations to new 64 bit quad core screamers with more than enough RAM and custom-configured based on benchmark testing to perform in a 3D modeling environment. 

 

Just shuts down, lags for 20-30 seconds on simple commands.

 

Wait for the service pack.


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Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:56:50 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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Don't be hating on Alabaster and Typhoon....people like them and many others do all of us a great service by taking time to help people work through their problems: software or hardware.  You musta been drunk posting Giga....or perhaps uninformed.  It did make for fun reading though....back to the topic

 

anyone know when the release date for a service pack is?


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Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:46:18 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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I think my new career is gonna be doing system analysis for new Revit product launches!

 

Do you guys ever talk to your computers? Tell them they are pretty and you are proud of them?


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Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:00:49 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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funny thing is......I do talk to my computer from time to time, but it is usually the opposite of praise....; )

 

prehaps I should start giving it more praise instead.........


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Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:13:23 PM | Revit 2010 Stability

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We have crashing issues about 5x/day on 2 out of 2 PCs where users are actively using it. The machine specs are as follows:

Custom built PC with XP Pro SP3 32-bit, Intel Quad-core 2.5Ghz q9300, 4 GB High-perf OCZ RAM, NVidia 9600GT graphics card. 500 Watt PS. Not too bad of a machine.

We've tried the driver updates, the Autodesk drivers, the /3GB switch (see above posts on this), adding revit.exe to the antivirus, increasing the page file, etc. etc. on and on. Still crashes all the time.

We then installed Revit Architecture 2010 on a newer Dell Precision T3400, XP Pro sp3 32-bit, Intel Duo Proc 3.16, 4GB RAM, NVidia Quadro FX 3700. Also, not too bad a machine. It faired much better BUT it does still crash without warning and no event gets logged.

I guess my gripe is that we are meeting the requirements for system performance set forth by Autodesk but we are still having a lot of problems. We have GB switches, a Dell EqualLogic iSCSI SAN, not too many bottlenecks between the PC and the revit DB. This is driving us nuts.

Sucks because there are supposed to be some nice new features for our MEP folks in revit but now they are most definitely screwed with 2010. 2009 was WAY more stable as far as we can see.

 Gigafish may be a douche but the biggest douche is the guy whom signed off on ribbon toolbars.


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Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:17:40 PM | Revit 2010 Stability

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Hardware is a tremendous part of the equation in making Revit 2010 work. I wouldn't ever dispute that.My concern is though, of what I've read here, in my own experience, and in other forums, that there are users who are experiencing problems on hardware that meets minimum or even recommended requirements, but that they are still having trouble.

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I had a case today where a user had Revit 2010 set up on a Dell T3400. 4GB memory, Intel Core 2 (3.16GHz), Nvidia QuadroFX 3700. Not exactly a CAD designer's wet dream, but more than certainly meets Revit's system requirements. In fact, purchased with the intent of being used as a CAD machine. Testing on this machine is the most current step in a long string of adjustments to try and create a stable environment for Revit. (having tested on several other machines and hardware setups, Dell Optiplex 755s and 745s with lesser specs but still meeting recommended levels, and having completed the list of steps I mentioned a couple posts ago.) Unfortunately, the program crashes, producing no error messages, just exiting to the desktop. No messages in the event viewer, no error messages upon exit, no option to recover since the last save.

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Given that all the BIOS, chipset, and graphics drivers on the newer machine have been updated. A machine that should competently handle Revit 2010, I believe that the hardware angle has been exhausted. Right now I'm interested in hearing more about software configurations or complications, or blocks or bad interactions that might cause system instability.

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Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:46:05 PM | Revit 2010 Stability

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Since I changed the 3 GB switch about two weeks ago I have only had one crash.


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Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:59:43 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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Are there any AutoDESK qualified techinitians that appear in the forums? they seem to be missing a major oppurtunity here, by visiting the forums, they may be able to work on errors and bugs if they check with the users.

I have simply obstained form using 2010 until I hear that things have been fixed uo.. my computer works fine.. until i used 2010 and then things went bad... no issues with 2009 and even better- previous packages were excellent

 hope things get better from now

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Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:28:01 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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Well, i don't have any Dell or Hp (well not true, in the office i have a HP Workstation 4300 and belive me, compare to my PC at home it's a #$%&Winking I have (at home) a Custom built PC with ASUS Motherboard with Intel Dual-core 2.40Gh, ATI Radeon x1600 512Mb, 8 Gb of Ram 1066, Windows Vista 64 and works like a charme, no crash at all, maybe you guys it's time to change to 64 bits O.S. with 8Gb Ram...

 


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Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:54:59 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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can you imagine what a person would think of a computer prgogramming ssytem such as Autodesk if - not only upgrading costs a fortune but then they expect you to upgrade your Pc system - or whatever it is so that their upgrade works efficiently

 i think that's bit too much...

my comments are refering to drafting- modelling and ptechincal work-- not even to mention the downsid eof 2009 and 2010 when it comes to rendering.. material making is heavier and restrictive... i liked to older stuff...

what do you think of drafting tools that work as fast as AutoCAD 2D lines...?? the details lines in REVIt are far too slow and restrict time as far as REVIt efficiency in my opinion...?


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Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:15:25 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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Online, in first, Welcome to Revit World if i never told you before, look, i don't know how long do you work in CAD and Revit, but i start with Autocad since 1989/90 version 9 (DOS version- Old times ), in that time the computers are 286 and 386, no Pentiums in that time and the Autocad came in 3 disketts (not cd's or Dvd's), TODAY if you install Autocad Architectural you must put a DVD, 1.5Gb do you know how many diskkets are necessary? 1042.

Today more and more programs are "heavier", it's logicall, the programs "grow" are developed in others O.S., prepare to run in "Heavy" machines and so one, SO the machines must be more powerfull, i understand your issues but like Alabaster was said, only a few people here have this kind of problems, if the problem are in the software, Well then everyone has had this problem, not a few people.... try to run revit in Vista 64 with 8Gb of RAM, sometimes i have opened Revit 2009 to render and working in Revit 2010, and Autocad Civil 3D, internet, Photoshop... at the same time and no problem at all, but like i said before, at my office, with Workstation HP 4300, with XP 32 bits and 3Gb of Ram and ONLY with Civil 3D it "Crash", Why?????

 

 



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Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:29:21 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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Typhoon,

I would like to believe that this problem is limited to a few users. But so far, we have had consistent crashes on completely different PC brands and configurations. Also, one of the prior posts would indicate that 64-bit may or may not help either. Add that to the fact that nothing is being logged in the event viewer and it's starting to reek of memory leak or something that is just not-too-well-tested programming. What is so different from 2009 to 2010? Again 2009 no crashes. 2010 TONS o' crashes.

ANY time Autodesk gets their hands on code, they WILL screw it up. If code was written by someone else and it works great, Autodesk WILL screw it up when they get their hands on it.


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Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:35:24 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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Bubba, could be, but after all this troubles you have now i think I'm a very lucky guy....

 


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Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:41:51 AM | Revit 2010 Stability

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