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Rick, Do you have anyone locally to assist you with this? (I assume not, since you're posting here). One of the things we do with our customers is to go into firms such as yours that are on the brink and hold a 60-90 minute informational session for upper management (and upper management only). It's not a Revit sales pitch by any means. In most cases these people already own Revit and are getting ready to get serious about implementing it. What we try to do is make sure they understand the issues, both from a technological and business perspective. The effects of transitioning to a product like Revit has long term business implications in addition to the obvious technical ones. We've found that if management can be educated in the higher level issues, they tend to be more receptive to the technical requirements of an implementation (and more patient), and are usually willing to invest more resources in time, money and personnel, to make it work. To answer some of your specifics, however, it is true that Revit MEP is not quite ready yet for everyone, or for every project. There are some major shortcomings that are still being resolved that prevent it from being effectively used 100 percent by even the most avid Revit MEP users. Add to that the fact that most MEP engineers are not going to move to Revit MEP until they find themselves working with Architects using Revit and requiring Revit MEP (by their own admission), and you can figure on, in most cases, dealing with a typical AutoCAD workflow on the MEP side. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and is easily addressed by Revit, as others in this thread have indicated. On the structural side, if you're working with a Structural Engineer using Revit Structure, you can share data seamlessly through file linking. Again, if they're using AutoCAD, the same applies as above. Internally, your processes and relationships will change. First, expect your projects to be more "front-loaded", meaning more resources being put in during schematic design than in the past and conversely, less in CD's than in the past. In fact you may not really notice when you get to CD's - up to a point, they just kind of happen during the DD and SD process. (With the exception of large scale details and annotation). Working in a model-based environment involves a different thought process, as you know from your own past work in ADT, and this takes a little getting used to for most users. A common problem is "overmodeling" - putting TOO MUCH information in the model - bloating files and impacting performance. (Not to mention the time it takes to model that anchor bolt). Users will have to understand more about how a building goes together in Revit than they do with AutoCAD or ADT, and they have to understand that when they delete that wall, it may be affecting a couple of rooms and a ceiling, as well as other geometry that they may not be thinking about at the time. (In other words, you have to at least be as smart as the technology). It's a complex question, with no simple answer. But if done properly the benefits are there and they're real. BTW - when are you going to dump that gig and move to DFW? :-)
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Your not the only one who needs help! there are about 8 revit seats and I am the only one thats fully up to speed, I have to convert files constantly back & forth, the last project involved structural, M & E , Interior designers. I produced 90% of the Outline to Construction drawings in revit then wasted huge amounts of time.The project itself proved Revit worth but we had a meeting last monday when the same comments were made as exactly 18 months.Would you beleive that the ones that are dragging there feet are nearly 20yrs younger! Its nothing to do with age, I still remember Autocad 9, that does give my age away.
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