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jjlangh

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Thanks, i guess i'll add it to my list as well.

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RAC 2009 have added this feature

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MHerzog

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Here is a work around (wow, imagine that) for overriding the actual dimension in Revit.  As for the user who said everything should be drawn correctly to begin with, you can't be serious.  The original posters comment about break lines in details is an excellent example of why you would want to do this.  I am sure you have overridden dimensions plenty of times in AutoCAD yourself.  You know there are actually good reasons for doing this, so don't be so arrogant.  The work around is as follows

• Click on "Replace Text With"
• Right click in the replace text box
• Go to "Insert Unicode Control Character"
• Choose "LRM" from the list
• Type in your new dimension
• Abracadabra, you are done
• Click "OK"

You're welcome, France!

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teafoe5

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"user who said everything should be drawn correctly to begin with, you can't be serious"

"I am sure you have overridden dimensions plenty of times in AutoCAD yourself"

Revit is designed to show things as they are suppose to be, faking dimensions is not good practice.  This is NOT autocad, you need to leave that thinking at the door, just because you use to do it in autocad doens't mean it should be done in Revit.

Calling someone arrogant in your first post?  Come on.



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MHerzog

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I agree with you about the arrogant comment (that just showed my own arrogance, and I sincerely apologize for the remark), but I still say there are times you will want to override a dimension. I am not saying it is good practice to do this for walls, windows, doors, etc. That being said, there is a place for overriding dimensions.

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WWHub

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I believe the only way you should over-ride a dimension is with NTS in front of it. 

Then it is very obvious what the user has done. 

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MHerzog

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"I believe the only way you should over-ride a dimension is with NTS in front of it. Then it is very obvious what the user has done."

@WWHub: Do you ever have a detail with break lines but need an overall dimension for what is shown? Do you dimension that as NTS? Seems pointless to me, and this is not how it is done in industry. I realize that people who really LOVE Revit like to say "everything needs to be modeled exactly," but this is not always a good idea, or feasible (as in the case of detailing). You can continue with your way of doing things, but it seems unreasonable to me (and apparently everyone I work with, because no one does this).

"This is NOT autocad, you need to leave that thinking at the door, just because you use to do it in autocad doens't mean it should be done in Revit."

@teafoe5: If you can't draft geometry correctly in AutoCAD you are not going to do much better in Revit. I don't understand your comment. Everything in AutoCAD is drawn to exact dimensions also (or should be) to the same extent that I've been noting in my posts thus far.

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WWHub

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If I need to create a detail view that is broken, then I use a detail view instead of a drafting view.

By previous answer still stands.  Add something that says the dimension is over ridden.  CAD habits are poor practice.

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teafoe5

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"I realize that people who really LOVE Revit like to say "everything needs to be modeled exactly," but this is not always a good idea"

How is creating something the way it is actually done not a good idea?  Seems like "faking it" is the bad idea to me.

"seems unreasonable to me (and apparently everyone I work with, because no one does this)."

Then keep doing it the way you are doing it, however WWHub gave you your solution.

"Everything in AutoCAD is drawn to exact dimensions also "

This contradicts everything you have been saying.  If its drawn to exact dimensions then there is no need for faking dimensions.  Eitherway this is not AutoCAD, people who make the transition often get stuck trying to bring their old ways into Revit.  Hence why I said you need to leave the AutoCAD thinking behind.

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MHerzog

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"This contradicts everything you have been saying. If its drawn to exact dimensions then there is no need for faking dimensions."

Obviously you choose to selectively read my posts.  Let me try to give you a concrete example of what I am talking about because I am tired of going in circles with you.  Let's say I have a detail of a CMU wall at a perimeter footing.  I want to show all of the reinforcing in the wall and how it interacts with the footing.  Now lets say that the vertical reinforcing is in the same plane as some doweling I also want to show.  In this situation what I do is cheat the dowel and the vert apart so I can clearly see both.  Then I dimension them and change (fake/override) the dimension to 0".  I am curious as to what would your solution be?  Please let me know.

This is the type of example I've been alluding to this entire time, but, for some reason, you are stuck on the model.  It appears that people who are Gong-Ho about Revit are more interested in the "model" than the plan set.  I don't understand that.  No one builds anything off of a model.  The model does not get submitted or approved by a plan checker.  The plans are what really matters.  You can design the most accurate model ever in Revit, but if you can't show it properly on the sheets you've wasted your time.

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WWHub

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You are obviously too new to Revit.  Over time, you may understand if you choose to do things "correctly" in Revit.  For 99% of our planset, the model is the planset.  If you model correctly, your work is almost completely done.  EVEN DETAILS!

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MHerzog

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I didn't think you'd have a good answer.  Thanks for proving me right.

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