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I keep getting asked this on training course.. "Can you save back in Revit" Well no you can't.. not using the RVT fortmat anyway... but it's worth taking a look at the Export> IFC option if this is a must do because someone doens't have the version you are on. http://www.revitup.co.za/main/page_home_chatbox.html Justin
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Justin, were you just in Las Vegas at our Revit group meeting?
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Sandoz, afraid not... I live in South Africa (I moved over just over a year ago from the UK) Justin justin@prokon.com
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Has anyone else tried the IFC export? I would like to know the results people are getting.... Justin
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Hi there Justin. I would like to give people a word of caution when doing this method. If you have used commands that were Revit 2009 for rendering and lighting and dimensioning you will notice that it wont work in 2008. That is the only problem with taking it back via IFC. Also you don't know if it will actually create certian objects especially if it was used with the sweep-blend tool.
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ya i agree with elmo http://www.revittut.blogspot.com/
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The fact that you cannot save down to previous version is the most LAME thing ever. Causes masses of problems at the most inconvienent time. Archicad ppl were smart enought not to do this dumbass mistake... major bummer I was thinking about convincing my boss to step by step swith to REVIT but now...i think i wont do it.....even thoe i like Revit and made several projects with it and saw some minusews like no texture visible in viewport (also major bumer), or now walk around comand.... but this was the last drop ....
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Autodesk should reconcider about this feature. Personaly i'm not a programer and i don't care how diffficult it is to make such things. If your oponenents can do it....so should you... simple as that
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Perhaps because you don't program, you don't realize the advantages of not making the program backward compatable. It allows the program to be leaner and easily modified for better performance and to take advantage of new concepts.
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Whatever man.... i am an architect and i don't care about programing. just as programer doesn't care about architectural specifics...u can talk all you want about how lean and fast it is but in real life i see a potential BIG problem at most inconvinient time, when there shouldn't be any problem. All i know that other ppl that make architectural programs could do it. that's it ....i said it before and i'll say it again .....it's as simple as that! I am myself a big Autodesk fan, but don't try to make autodesk look good when they look bad. It looks pathetic.
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"What ever man . . . . just as programer doesn't care about architectural specifics..." Hmm, do I detect the need for a little attitude adjustment ? Let me educate you beyond your architectural studies. REVIT is Building Information Modeling not vector based CAD. It is a HIGHLY sophisticated 3 dimensional parametric database that encompasses multi-disciplined objects and system management. To try to drag along the code from previous versions of the software is just not practical. Nor is it good for the users. This is not a simple vector based software, not is it a word processor or spread sheet. I have been using REVIT since V4.5 and upgraded each time with delight and it has been a godsend compared to dealing with oodles of legacy DWG file formats and all the crap it comes with. Not to implicate anyone in this thread but backward file compatability establishes a 'breeding ground for pirates' who just stay one release behind everyone else and download the softawre off the torrent sites. Then without contributing a single penny to the development of the product they stand there and say "Hey, can you do a saveas for me : ) " * Yes REVIT 2010 is the first release that has actually had reason to not upgrade but I have faith that will change. I know from 20+ years of CAD support experience that backward compatibility of the DWG is the poster child of 'unexplainable errors' due to the bone yard of legacy data and code as files get passed around and around from one version to the next going up and down the scale of file versions. YUCK, YUCK and TRIPPLE YUCK. Don't want it. No thank you please. No way, no how. Any legitimate experienced REVIT user will tell you, we want one file format. Keep the software lean and mean. It's a new mindset. A little tricky to shed the old methods but once you are on board you will understand the advantages of having a single file format.
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:D LOL thanx for the info....i know all about that....i'm not 70 year old architect5 who has no idia about BIM technology and what is Revit all about, BUT still i don't care it is horably lame! once again u compare AutoCAD with Revit, when u should compare Archicad with Revit... and Archicad is lean and mean and it can save down one version....even thoe i prefer Revit because as i said i am a autodesk fan for some period of time. i don't need any more arguments ppl....i'm not trying to be rude, but i look at real world situations and not in perfect world where everyone is perfect with the latest versions of software, i mean we work with multiple companys involved in various projects. and i guaranty that this is a big problem.
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Hey, it's all in good humor on this site, I'm sure everyone is just trying to make an honest crust of bread. Interesting however. So if ArchiCAD continues to allow backward compatibility (how many versions back?) and REVIT does not. . . . then in 'THEORY' REVIT should have more freedom to advance and make major changes? In 'theory'. To me, it only makes sense that if a (complex) software advances at a decent rate BUT also allows older versions of the software to open and utilize new file formats then on a programming level that eats up alot of time, effort and resources. It's a ball and chain. As a software jockie like myself I'd rather have a fresh horse than one that's been propped up. When you can kiss the old format goodbye and move forward with a clean slate, that alleviates a ton of planning and work. I compare it to constantly renovating the same building or starting with a new site.. . . Over and over.
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yes we're all a big family here right? i'm sure that not making backward capability in software gives software creators more freedom BUT if others can do so, so should autodesk, and even if no one else can do so autodesk should, cause then they would have that smth that others don't. Archicad can save down ONE version. I tend to use Revit at work here and there, and want to know if other software have the same issues as Revit. I mena the most annoing ones were: No log wall types (the sweap thing seemed like the most idioting thing ever to make a log wall), also what i liked in Archicad and missed in Revit was roofing wizard, that is one of the most amazing things ever, and ofcourse was not beeing able to save down. Cause if i convince my boss to buy Revit for the whole company (right now we have only one) and have this saving down problem with anyone at all, my head will fly off just like that. Cause from my personal expieriance these types of problems come at the most unneeded time.
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I know we never have "a saving down problem" because we just don't allow that to happen. It only takes a little planning and after all, that is what architects should be able to do best.
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