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Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:57:37 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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Hi guys,

 

Just dwelled into the world of revit, this is about revit architecture hope this is the right place to talk about it? (right part of the forum)

 

Nevertheless recently graduated and i am opening a planning business in my local area however wanted to offer my clients the best bang for their buck so to speak.

 

So its my first time im using revit took me a whole day to kind of draft my own house, its hard when your learning but im getting there (was using a laptop with no mouse just the keypad mouse).

 

My issues reside in the stairs (i am designing my own home), i have 12 risers and ceiling height of 2110mm (including ceiling onto landing is close enough to 2610mm) however each riser is 190mm (depth/height), my guess is that the angle is off on the drawing but i do not know how to do this! ive been playing around for hours and still have not managed to get it right! also for the stair to join the lobby does a landing need to be present and how would i go about doing it?

The last of my issues is i have a bay window i have got the dimensions right and everything is in place however when trying to get the area inbetween the windows to change to pvc, or something to indicate it is a whole length window rather seperated by brick, i cannot seem to get it right again i have tried and even have tried the curtain wall feature, alas to no avail i am still a newbie!

i love autocad it is so simple for drafting but the fact revit incooperates everything and changes elevations and sections by a few clicks is really impressive but grr feel like pulling my hair out!

Is there a revit guide for residential homes that you could point me to also?

I have attached the files to go with my queries,

Thankyou for looking over and responding.



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Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:56:40 AM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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Stairs are associated to levels, for example when you being drawing your stair you need to assign the start level to LEVEL 1 and Ending Level to LEVEL 2.  Revit will automatically figure out what is required of your stair to reach that level.  Levels are VERY important in REVIT. 

A lap top with no mouse would be rather difficult to work with, I'd suggest spending the $10 bucks for a mouse to save you a lot of time.

How did you created your "bay window"?  It looks as though you just put in 3 different windows.  If that is how you wanted it to be and you are just looking to get a different appearance between the windows you can use the SPLIT FACE command to split your wall where needed and use the PAINT command to paint the wall to look like your PVC or whatever you want it to look like.  There are also some Bay Windows available for download on this site that may be useful to you.

 

I am not sure what version REVIT you are using but the MASTERING Autodesk Revit Architecture book is very informative.  You can also checkout CADClips.com, TheRevitKid.com, and youtube.com for helpful tutorials and information along with this site. 


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Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:15:27 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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I managed to get the levels sorted, i introduced a ceiling level into my drawing and managed to get it perfected the stairs curve and slope and is positioned to the landing however is there a way to attach the final riser to the actuall landing?

 

well my bay window is the best i could get it to be honest it is a make shift one yes, but simply i do not know how to use the program (first time using it), the bay window it self is fully conected and would like it done to that specific criteria and yes i just plopped three different sized windows down, is there a easy way or a way to make the bay window my self? with the bottom being brick? (model or family maybe??)

 

Appreciate your reply thank you very much!


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Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:57:36 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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Btw im using autodesk revit architecture 2012


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Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:56:24 AM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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I wouldn't say there is an "easy" way to make your bay window if you are just beginning.  If you don't know anything or much about creating families you should really go through the Revit Family Guide that I have attached below.  If you did not want to create one from scratch you could look for one on this site from the downloads and try to reverse engineer it.  I'm not sure what you mean by add brick to the bottom of the bay window but if you are talking about the wall the window sits in, there is no need to add that to the window, you create your wall and then the window will cut the wall by itself.  You can definetly create the bay window yourself but it would not be a quick task for you since your not familiar with the program. 

I really recommend going through some of the tutorials that Revit has to offer to make yourself more familiar with the program, it will make your life a lot easier.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=13080413&linkID=9243097


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Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:39:23 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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I followed you advice and found tutorials and will be going through the family guide i have some basic knowledge now and makeshifted autocad default baywindow into something i want. However to postion the baywindow onto the cavity wall, so it seems it fits properly is a bit of a task for me right now (but i guess if the angles on the window match the angle of the wall it should fit) however i can achieve a perfect finish with a interior wooden sill to sit ontop of the brick work.

 

I have attached a few images to show what i have done and have  few questions to ask:

 

How do i get the extrdued brick work to sit at the ref line as soon as i place it into the drawing without using the align tool? (Ref line placed in family also)

How do i access the model hatch patterns for the metric brick sizes that are set as deafult in autocad (i managed to find the deafult draft hatch patterns).

CAn i place the hatching on one of the faces of the extrusion as i can only manage to get the whole item coloured and hatched

Also in floor plan view how can i get rid of the two lines goin through the bay window?

 

Thankyou for your help very much appreciated!!!



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Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:47:23 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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Did you end up making the bay window as a window family?  If so can you upload it and I will see if I can take a look to see what you have done so far, I'm a little confused on some of your questiosn so looking at the family might help.


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Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:20:44 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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Yes i made it as a family, however i wasnt planning to as it seemed too hard but i found a company called rev component? with lots of bay window families etc and thought i would give it a try so i did Smile,

 

If you could explain what questions you dont understand i could expand on these or explaing them more clearly?

 

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Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:43:29 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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I would not put the wall below the bay window in with the family as an extrusion.  I would just draw the window and then keep the wall in the main model that way all of your walls are consistant.

Before you place your window in your project you get a Sill Height option in the properties where you can specify the elevation you would like your window to sit.

All of your hatch patterns and materials are under the Manage Tab, Materials

You will have to check your view range for the lines in your floor plan, when I bring in the window I do not get those lines and I have the default view range from a new project.


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Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:07:49 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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As it is a bay window how can i get rid of the wall in the family so it is just the window, this way i can get the window to sit ontop of the walls drawn in the project, also would the fit be nice compared to the fit on the extruded family you have just seen?

 

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Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:21:46 AM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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You don't get rid of the wall you get rid of the extrusion under the window.  The wall is part of the Revit Family and is needed so that when you bring your project into Revit it knows that the window is a wall based family and will attach to a wall and automatically cut the opening.  The fit would be the same, you just control the height of the wall in the project.  See the attached file.



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Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:56:58 PM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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That looks beautiful, i will attempt it and show my progess if i do come accross any problems i will reply promtly.

 

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Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:12:33 AM | Need some help please! Stairs and bay windows

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Hi,

 

Just wondering howp did you align everything so nicely.

 


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